TB Joshua Bodies Delayed By Nigerian Authority

 

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According to a government official who did not want to be named, the delays have been caused by the political haggling between South Africa and Nigeria.

The official said the Nigerian government has been refusing to have DNA analysis conducted in South Africa “even though they don’t have the expertise, facilities and skills”. Yet the Nigerian government would not allow the South African pathologists and forensic experts who travelled to Lagos to take DNA samples from the bodies, insisting on doing that itself. And it would not allow them to do the matching of the DNA samples with the DNA of the relatives of the dead.

This proves our point the those behind the tragedy played delay tactics, thinking that when the bodies decompose the chances of finding “explosive” on the bodies can’t be traced thus refusing to deploy bomb disposal unit to the scene; What a shame!

Because of the state of the bodies, just over 40 of the South African bodies could be identified by fingerprints.

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TB Joshua Building Collapes – Over Eight Thousand Applied to Visit!

It’s a known fact that Prophet TB Joshua is the most sought after by people all over the world visiting the Synagogue Church of all nation’s “SCOAN” All international airlines that has a direct flight to Lagos would attest to this as well as the Nigerian immigration and customs. It’s a known fact that Prophet TB Joshua is the most sought after by people within the vineyard.

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We are all aware how Idahosa started his attacks on the person of TB Joshua, followed by his predecessors  Ayo Irijafor, and other members of their association like Matthew Ashimolowo and other big wing Nigerian men of God, who are now rejoicing over the incident that took place at the SCOAN on the 12th Sept, 2014

THE NIGERIA GOVERNMENT

There were many contradictory statements made; that the Court has refused into which clearly tells me that the “Coroner” has already been briefed on how and in whose favor the case must be judged, just to soil the name of TB Joshua and his ministry “SCOAN” It is very clear because one of the witness during the inquest said:

On the collapse of the guesthouse, Ayinde said he had reviewed security camera footage released by SCOAN officials, which they claimed showed a low-flying aircraft above the building.

Joshua has suggested that the aircraft — and up to three others seen in the same position in the hour leading up to the tragedy — was linked to the collapse.

“It was within its flight corridor. It was moving on its directional path and an area of the airport,” he added.

“We also wrote and got a report from (the) Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority that the aircraft was flying 1,100 feet, which is 300 meters. So, the aircraft was not close to the building.”

The purpose of witnessing at the inquest is to speak the truth, the question is that was Mr. Ayinde at the scene at the time of the incident and  the  Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority, he quoted ” that the aircraft was flying 1,100 feet, which is 300 meters. So, the aircraft was not close to the building.”? The answer is no.

It’s true that; that area is a flight path, of  which flight comes across from the EAST from Ejigbo, Cele area, but NEVER in History has flight flown from the WEST before, but that same flight flew over that particular building from the west 4 times at 60″ 40″ 20″ and  10″ to carry out their mission.

We have contacted the eyewitness we spoke with”GODSPOWER” to provide us the video he took of the Jet and would be published as soon as we receive it.

Head of the emergency services: As far as he is concerned, the problem is a structural failure and that a test in a so-called lab will determine if it was so. The same tune by the governor of Lagos and the same tune from the president; Both ignoring the presents of their Jet that flew over the SCOAN building from the west! Has anyone asked why the Nigerian authorities were so scared when they realized that South Africa was sending in investigators. They quickly, with the help of the Nigerian Tribune, came up with an article about President Zuma, his relationship with a presidential candidate, the sizable 9.3 million dollars trying to make it seem like there is a diplomatic row between the two countries even to the extent of comparing both economies and how bad South Africa was doing. Such writing is not done by unschooled journalists; such writing is done by crafty politicians who have an agenda in mind – to create confutation by putting pressure and/or bullying the South Africans into submission.

As soon as they realized that SCOAN had captured one of their planes on CCTV, they quickly came up with a destructive response. Note Nigeria’s Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Adesola Amosu, has dismissed insinuations linking the missing Air Force Alpha jet to sabotage. Could it be that indeed Major General Chris knew nothing about the plan to use the said plane for the SCOAN operation, but only the privileged few or the coincidence was too much. Why did that not name the two missing pilots with their pictures if indeed they were really lost in action. Not what Marshal Adesola Amosu said that the Nigerian army was in full control of its air space yet no one has come forward to say anything about that plane and what it was doing over the building. Take a look at this. Please go to list of combat Aircraft owned by the Nigerian Military.

http://www.combataircraft.com/en/Military-Aircraft/Nigeria/  This is a list of combat Aircraft owned by the Nigerian Military. Note the Hercules C-130.

EVIL NIGERIAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS

Once again its fact that the “PFN” Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria “CAN” Christian Association of Nigeria.

The current saga and involvement of Ayo and the 9.3 million dollar arms deal that went wrong in South Africa tells the shadiness of his dealings. Only God knows what these arms were intended for. The current assertion that it was to be used by the government or the army is just a cover up. What people don’t know is that through the ministry of interior CAN (Ayo) controls the influx of religious Christian visitors coming into Nigeria which has seen most of T.B. Joshua’s visitors denied entry visa’s to Nigeria. If T.B. Joshua or The SCOAN is not a member of CAN why should CAN care who visits him? You are all aware of many write up on the internet against TB Joshua and his ministry even TB Joshua ex-followers who turned against the ministry, just like Judas turned against Jesus Christ.

INTERNATIONAL VIEW

Regular visitors to the TB Joshua’s Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN) continue to have faith in the organisation despite recent criticism. Since the tragic collapse over two months ago, of a building in Lagos in Nigeria housing visitors to the synagogue, the church has faced a great deal of criticism regarding their standards of safety.

Advocate Johnny Klopper and his wife Dorothy Klopper have visited SCOAN collectively more than 25 times in the past, and maintain that the church should not carry all the blame for the incident. Advocate Klopper believes everything done from the ministry’s side was done “in excellence” and is convinced that any future investigation will confirm this. Having travelled around the world with TB Joshua, he describes him as a humble man and says he has learned a great deal from him. His wife Dorothy Klopper also maintains that a third party may have been involved in the collapse of the building. She says TB Joshua loves all the guests visiting the synagogue, and says “he would never in any way take shortcut concerning their well-being”. See the full interview on Morning live  uploaded by us click here

T.B. Joshua’s statement shortly after the incident noting ‘a strange plane’ that flew over the building several times, alongside the release of security footage that captured the horrific incident, was widely condemned as irresponsible, irrational and insensitive.

Why Joshua’s Church Collapse Convinced Me He Is A Genuine Man Of God

I know many will be surprised at this opinion but it is an honest and frank progression of thoughts from an open-minded individual, not emboldened by any personal bigotry, political agenda or religious connotation.

T.B. Joshua is a name I was distantly aware of prior to the tragic collapse of a guesthouse within his premises on September 12th 2014 that plummeted over 100 salvation-seeking individuals into a premature grave. Indeed, I don’t think there is any Nigerian who can feign ignorance of Joshua’s fame and miraculous claims.

However, by virtue of both location and vocation, there had been no specific reason for me to form any particular opinion or premonition concerning him despite the volume of vitriolic reports I believe we have all heard or read to some degree in time-past.

I certainly respected Pastor Joshua for his commendable humanitarian services, just as I do anyone who gainfully uses their resources for the benefit and benefaction of others, but my train of thoughts had not travelled toward any further conclusive trajectory.

Therefore, the tragic incident and wave of attention bestowed relentlessly on Joshua in its wake provided fodder for reflection. Although I am not a personal adherent to the rather cryptic ‘marmite philosophy’ of ‘you either love it or hate it’, T.B. Joshua’s case appears to aptly illustrate this. Just look at the vast chasm between unreasonable detestation and irrational devotion displayed by Joshua’s foes and fans alike in online commentaries and debates!

I would opt more on the side of neutrality, governed hopefully by rationality! As a Christian, brought up under a strict moral barometer, I certainly consider myself a ‘spiritual realist’. I would like to believe I am governed by the indomitable principle that forces for both good and evil exist in this world and an individual has a candid choice as to which direction he swings in and thus which influence he operates under.

Therefore, the barrage of negativity and scathing personal attacks on Joshua that spread like wildfire in the wake of the tragic incident certainly irked me. I pose a question at this point – why would a tragedy provide any logical yardstick for determining the authenticity of an individual related to it?

Let me state a few points I observed. Firstly, unreasonable assertions founded on inconclusive insinuations were published as if they were sacrosanct. For example, the statement attributed to a NEMA official who had just arrived on the scene claiming the building’s foundations were not sufficiently strengthened to withstand the additional floors being added was widely quoted and formed a core basis for criticism. However, his arrival at such conclusion without actually digging up the foundation to test its strength was neither questioned nor queried. Also, are disaster management personnel in the right position to give authoritative information on construction matters?

Numerous reports questioned the empathy and efficiency of The SCOAN’s initial response, alleging that emergency workers were refused access to the site. An article published in South Africa’s best selling newspaper theatrically titled, ‘Blood On Their Hands’, even suggested the secrecy that shrouded the incident’s aftermath resulted in a higher death toll. These reports were accentuated whereas conflicting reports detailing the efficiency of The SCOAN’s response and the ‘miracles’ behind the rescues of over 130 were significantly downplayed.

T.B. Joshua’s statement shortly after the incident noting ‘a strange plane’ that flew over the building several times, alongside the release of security footage that captured the horrific incident, was widely condemned as irresponsible, irrational and insensitive. Yet, to date, no NAMA official has made a public statement explaining the plane’s mission in Ikotun that day, if indeed nothing sinister was involved.

Emmanuel TV’s release of a video showcasing controlled demolitions and their remarkable semblance to the manner in which The SCOAN building collapsed was similarly left out of many media reports as the conclusion of structural defects had already been suitably positioned in people’s reasoning.

At this juncture, I must posit that as an individual with some knowledge in construction matters, the manner of the ‘pancake collapse’ I witnessed from The Synagogue security footage certainly doesn’t suggest structural deficiencies. Let’s hope investigators unravel the truth!

Calls for Joshua’s incarceration and prosecution were championed by even respected Nigerian scholars abroad even though the official investigation has not (as yet) declared any shred of culpability on the part of The SCOAN.

To buttress my point, take a look at a piece penned by one skeptic named Leo Igwe on Sahara Reporters. It is titled, ‘T B Joshua: The Collapse Of A Charlatan’ and basically opines that Joshua’s collapsed building signals ‘the slow and gradual crumbling of a mega charlatanic ministry being spearheaded by one of the most notorious evangelical con artists Nigeria has ever known.’

The article contains no substance or systematic thought processes whatsoever; it is simply a barrage of incensed accusations of fabrication and deception against Joshua and Christianity in general. Why was it that Igwe’s openly anti-Christian rantings were given such free advertising? Surely, the focus should have been on the wellbeing of those who lost loved ones in the tragedy (to whom I send my sincere and heartfelt condolences) and not Pastor Joshua’s spiritual legitimacy?

Similarly, a laughable report in Nigeria’s Vanguard newspaper shortly after the incident questioning Joshua’s miraculous abilities was prejudiced to the point of embarrassment. If a similar report had been filed on another subject matter, it would have been rejected for its blatant disregard for journalistic ethics and lack of credibility, yet it was not only published but disseminated on various online sites and foreign newspapers.

People repeatedly and usually sarcastically questioned on social media why Joshua had not ‘prophesied’ his own building collapse despite his famed divine insight to foresee events of international significance. The question certainly has validity but it is by no means a factor by which genuineness can be ascertained. Are we positioning Joshua on the level of our Creator by suggesting he must be ‘all-knowing’?

I ask the question here – had this tragic incident happened in the premises of a business tycoon or prominent hotelier, would the venom unleashed towards its owner have been proportionate to that leveled at T.B. Joshua?

It appears to me that people had already prepared and preloaded ‘ammunition’ against Pastor Joshua, awaiting an opportunity to unleash them in a concerted attempt at character assassination. The tragic incident simply provided the sufficient media and public attention to respectably mask motives yet spew forth venom.

In this respect, the amount of criticism leveled toward Joshua actually had an adverse affect on me. Why would people fight someone to such an extent, straining to paint him black, if he was not standing up for what is right? Why would such vehement personal attacks arise against an individual, who has not been found guilty on any counts as yet, without another sinister motive at play? What evidence is there of a man who stands for light if darkness does not attempt to snuff him out?

The more I listen to T.B. Joshua’s teachings on Emmanuel TV, watch the miraculous activities, eye-opening confessions and touching testimonies, the more I begin to understand. What happened that day was an attack, not just on T.B. Joshua or Nigeria, but on the kingdom of God.

In this matter, although it may be against popular opinion, I humbly yield to the promptings of my conscience – T.B. Joshua is a servant of the Most High.

Johnson Abayomi, a football coach of Nigerian origin, wrote this from his base in Atlanta, Georgia, USA

SCOAN COLLAPSE UPDATE: FALSE REPORTING OF TB JOSHUA BLOG

Today something incredibly revealing happened in the blogosphere. Something we would not have believed even if we were told. The vocal TBJ critic blog who assert themselves an authority in everything TB Joshua and SCOAN published an article on the SCOAN tragedy. In the article, they posted a photo of the collapsed building to undermine the theory of a controlled demolition with the caption:

SCOAN say that the collapse must have been a controlled explosion because it was “rapid, total and near-symmetrical”. Does this photo support the theory?

The initial photo and caption used by TB Joshua watch to represent the collapsed SCOAN Building

The initial photo and caption used by TB Joshua watch to represent the collapsed SCOAN Building

The revealing fact of this sordid attempt to debunk the theory of controlled demolition is that the photo they used WAS NOT AT ALL the photo of the synagogue rubble, but another photo of a separate collapse elsewhere. A fact which a commenter by the name Andrew pointed out to them in these words:

  1. Andrew says:November 3, 2014 at 6:46 am

    @TBJwatch, please, that photo you posted in this article is not the photo of the building that collapsed at SCOAN, PLEASSE, why must you mislead people with it. that was not a photo of the collapsed building. that building that collapsed, collapsed totally, what is wrong with you guys? what is your problem, Just what are you planning to achieve with this? in your search for a photo to use in this post, you ignored all the live photos of the disaster taken by different journalists and even news crews and go over a limb to use a different photo from that of the collapse. may God judge this evil machination of yours, may God judge, may God judge since there is God

To which the critic watch blog replied:

    • tbjoshuawatch says:November 3, 2014 at 7:08 am

      @Andrew – apologies for that, you are in fact correct. The photo we used had been widely used in articles about the SCOAN tragedy, but on further investigation it turns out to not be a photo of that. We have no intention to mislead people, and sincerely apologise for using the wrong image. We are removing it immediately.

To many, this may not seem like much but if you have been following their articles numbering over ten since the SCOAN tragedy, you would agree that this is a massive deal.

How come an acclaimed authority on this subject, having published close to ten articles on the building collapse, cannot rightly distinguish a dissimilar photo from an actual photo of the collapse rubble? even with the more than obvious striking differences?

Here are the differences below that escaped the notice of the vocal critic blog and their legion of supporters.

  1. The photo they used only showed the partial collapse of a building, whereas the SCOAN guest house collapse was total.
  2. The photo they used showed a building not roofed, still in construction, whereas the SCOAN guest house was completely roofed.
  3. The photo they showed as the SCOAN building was a three storey building, whereas the collapse building was a six-storey building.

If they could not rightly identify a photo of the collapse rubble which is sprawled on the internet, and in error posted a false photo, how then can they rightly discern and distinguish the facts of this tragedy from the ongoing rumors?

We leave that for you to judge who consider them “A comprehensive resource on TB Joshua and SCOAN.

The lame idea of an excuse they gave for their error was this:

tbjoshuawatch says:

November 3, 2014 at 7:08 am

@Andrew – apologies for that, you are in fact correct. The photo we used had been widely used in articles about the SCOAN tragedy,…”

So they went ahead to use it without even knowing for certain or at least finding out if it was the real photo; despite this lopsided reporting and sheer negligence, they earlier in the comments replied a commenter saying:

    • tbjoshuawatch says:November 3, 2014 at 4:22 am

      @mandela if you read our article, you’d see we have done our research…

..and a proceed of the said research was the posting of a fake photo to overcome the truth, for which they were duly reprimanded by a reader.

This is foolproof evidence that these writers are far from reality. Even, why speak us of reality when they did not even know the truth? If they had known how the collapse rubble really looked like, they would NEVER have mistaken a false photo for the true one. When you know the truth, what is false is easy to tell. These critic bloggers did not even know how a real photo of the rubble looked like; yet they assert themselves as knowing the circumstances and facts surrounding the collapse. Very impulsive.

The (original) caption-less photo used by TB Joshua blog after being reprimanded by a reader

The (original) caption-less photo used by TB Joshua critic  blog after being reprimanded by a reader

After replacing the photo with the original picture, why did they not leave the original quote underneath intact: which said:

SCOAN say that the collapse must have been a controlled explosion because it was “rapid, total and near-symmetrical”. Does this photo support the theory?

They could not because they know very well that the actual true photo of the rubble very well tells all that needs to be told of the tragedy, but they would rather not admit because of their prejudice. Neither they nor their legion of anti-Joshua commeters could discern all of this, what a blow. One of their most prolific commenters even had the guts to say this:

Jesse says:

On a final note, the question remains, can people who could not do so little as identify a fake photo of the collapse rubble, rightly tell you of the truth of the tragedy’s cause? If you think so feel free to listen to them; but for us, this mistake of theirs is a whistle blower of their evil machination, audible to the deaf, lucid to the blind and tangible to the paralytic.

If you still believe that writers who needed their readers help to identify a false photo of the collapse rubble can tell you any truth of the collapse, feel free to listen on. You may even laud them for owning up to such a malignant error, but then it is less to their glory for admittance and more to their shame for such depth of ignorance on this subject.

Synagogue collapse Update: TB Joshua Faces Coroner

The Fireman “Expert” who testified in Court:

Anyone with even the least understanding, looking at the way the SCOAN building collapse can tell that the collapse was near-symmetrical, quick and total. An indisputable fact is that no other theory would suffice to explain such a near-symmetrical, rapid and total collapse but that of carefully placed explosives set off in a particular order. In the last post we made reference to an article containing the confirmatory proofs of controlled demolition. But of the countless reports on line and in-print on the synagogue catastrophe, none and I repeat, absolutely none has managed to prove or even “suggest reasonably” how possible it is for “structural failure” to cause a total and symmetrical collapse of a high-rise building.

A fireman who spoke as a witness in the inquest was quoted to have said, he perceived no smell of explosives around the building or the evidence of a fire and so debunks the theory of a controlled demolition; Yet the fireman did not state in the hearing of the court the confirmatory signs that a building collapse was induced by controlled demolition, neither did he tell the court how to know if a building collapsed due to structural failure. He was trying to defeat an idea without propounding another – placing something on nothing and expecting it to stand. Who would blame him? after all he most likely has never in his life witnessed a controlled demolition, nor has studied anything about it. He spoke based on his limited understanding and went too far in the way he premised his conclusion merely because he saw no fire, and could not smell any explosive: both of which are not foolproof characteristics of a structural failure anywhere in the world.


On summoning TB Joshua to Court

There is already so much fuss about TB Joshua appearing in at the court of inquiry into the building collapse, having been summoned by the coroner of inquest himself. Whilst this may not in the opinion of lovers of TB Joshua and SCOAN to be proper, it is in any case going to happen and there is really nothing anyone can do about it at this point. What is worthy of note is the way the prophet’s appearance at the inquiry is so heavily and eagerly anticipated. He seemed to have been summoned in the way an ordinary witness would have been summoned, but it couldn’t be made anymore obvious that TB Joshua is no ordinary witness. His reputation precedes him. The first question that might come to the mind of SCOAN faithfuls on hearing this could be; who do they really want to testify at this inquest, MR. TB JOSHUA or PROPHET TB JOSHUA?. That seems to be a question for the coroner himself to decide.

While we may not be comfortable with the way TBJ has been summoned to court, it couldn’t have been the case if God had not allowed it. We should therefore submit to the will of God in this matter. The prophet has earlier said to us, No one can help me; only God; Leave me with God. We cannot love the prophet more than the God who called him, without whose will and purpose this could not have happened. fear not, the very hairs of the prophet’s head are numbered.

For a prophet who once could endure being unjustly detained in a cell for thirteen days, a court summon is very well within his tolerance.


Lost Voices of the Martyrs

In every generation, there is a peculiar tribulation for the believers in Christ’s to endure as is allowed by God; in the days of the holy apostles, it was persecution from city to city. Now that Christianity as a religion has become so widespread and appealing to the extent that people who are not Christians are claiming to be, the persecution definitely has taken another form. That of concerted attacks, campaign of calumny, intimidation and slanderous remarks. But one thing that is common to all the forms of persecution throughout the ages is the hatred of men towards the servants of God and apostles of Jesus Christ. Now is the time for us to remember the Lord’s words: Jesus said: you who stone the prophets and kill those who are sent to you.  Also to his disciples he said: All men will hate you because of me. It has become so pronounced for us according to what Jesus foretold; because  those who hate us and kill us think that they do God a service. John 16:2.

With the situation of the building collapse and the recent summoning of the Prophet to the court, one can understand a little of how the early church felt when the apostles were always dragged before Kings and rulers on account of the doctrine of the gospel. They were constantly summoned, queried, judged wrongly, sentenced to harsh judgments surpassing those of convicted criminals, and endured sufferings of all kinds which finally culminated in martyrdom. This was all required for the crown of righteousness Tasting of the cup of suffering of the Lord that we may also reign with him. Let us remember the faith of the Holy Apostles which they committed unto us with the seal of their blood; through which today we couldn’t have been saved. This is what the prophet meant when he spoke of martyrs being a blessing to us and to the whole world. Apostle Paul emphatically stated that “We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God,” Acts 14:22. These temporary tribulations are not to be feared, but it is to be feared that which has no end, the weeping and lamentations that never cease, finding no repose and consolation from tortures at any time forever – this which the blasphemers, slanderers and critic bloggers are not afraid to suffer.