Is it possible that the Messiah is already amongst us?

WARNING!!!  Before you read: the views expressed Here are personal and not those of the Synagogue Church of All Nations, or TB Joshua. Reader’s discretion is strictly advised.

Though Jesus emphatically stated that no one knows the time or the hour of His second coming, there was a very good reason why it was believed that He would return in the year 2000. Many theologians and bible scholars predicted his return in that year through careful study and interpretation of difference in time between the appearances of Major Prophets and the messiah, but were later disappointed in the end when they didn’t see Jesus in that year coming in the clouds of heaven.

But it perhaps never occurred to them that the biblical expression: “coming in the clouds of heaven was a parable and not literal in context” and that they were right in their presumptions but were confused by the manner of His coming because it differed from the way they expected it. This wouldn’t be the first time. Its a common trend in scripture that it establishes itself as a rule.

Two thousand years ago the Jewish people were expecting to see Elijah literally return from heaven to announce the appearance of the Messiah as was written in the scriptures. At one time the rabbis had asked Jesus’ disciples to explain how Jesus could possibly have been the Messiah when it was obvious (to them) that Elijah had not returned from heaven yet. The Apostles couldn’t answer this question, so they asked Jesus: “Why do the Jewish leaders insist Elijah must return before the Messiah comes?”

Jesus answered by first affirming that this question was valid and that this prophecy indeed was true. He said: “They are right. Elijah must come and set everything in order…”But then, to everyone’s surprise, Jesus explained:

“In fact, he [Elijah] already has come, but he wasn’t recognized, and was badly mistreated by many… Then the disciples realized he was speaking of John the Baptist.”-Matthew 17:10-13 (this account can also be found in: Mark 9:11-13) Clearly, Jesus taught that this was a true prophecy. Jesus agreed that Elijah indeed “must return before the Messiah comes.” But then, to the surprise to everyone there, Jesus claimed that John the Baptist was the fulfillment of this prophecy.

Jesus’ explanation was not well received by the Jewish religious leaders. Instead of Elijah personally returning from heaven, what the rabbis actually got was John… a dirty looking fellow, who wore a leather loincloth, a camel’s hair robe and who ate locusts for lunch. John the Baptist actually ate grasshoppers! John did not fit any picture that the rabbis might have had of what the spectacular second coming of Elijah was going to be like. John the Baptist didn’t come floating down from heaven. Instead, he came into the world in the same way as everyone else. John had a mother. He had a father. John had been born as a child and he had grown up just like everyone else. The rabbis might have also pointed out that even John himself had said that he was not Elijah. At one point, early in his ministry, John the Baptist was asked whether he was Elijah. He answered that he was not. (see John 1:21)

In what way could John the Baptist have been the return of Elijah? Certainly not literally. This apparent contradiction can be resolved by a statement made at the beginning of the Gospel of Luke where it explains that. John went “on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah.” -Luke 1:17 (KJV)

Elijah had returned from heaven in the “spirit”. John went “on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah.”-Luke 1:17 (KJV) Viewed this way, both John and Jesus were right. The man named Elijah who had lived eight hundred years earlier had not literally, physically returned from heaven in the flesh as just about everyone expected. Instead, the fulfillment of the ‘return of Elijah from heaven’ prophecy had nothing to do with Elijah’s physical body. It was the return of the same “spirit and power” of God that had animated Elijah eight hundred years earlier that had returned to also animate John the Baptist. The reality of Elijah’s return was the appearance of yet another totally separate and distinct Prophet of God.

Ask yourself… if you had lived 2000 years ago do you think that you would have been one of the few who had the insight to recognize John the Baptist as the fulfillment of the ‘return of Elijah’ prophecy? Chances are, you would not have understood how this prophecy had been fulfilled until after it had been explained to you.

The Christ First Coming

One day as Jesus was speaking to his disciples (along with a group of other people) he was heard to say: “I have come down from heaven…” A number of rabbis were present in the crowd and when they heard Jesus claim that he had come down from heaven, they “began to grumble about him” and they asked

“Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know?’ How can he now say, “I came down from heaven?” The rabbis had known his mother and his father. They knew that he had been born as a child just like everyone else. Some of them might even have known him as a young boy and might have watched him grow up over the years. How could Jesus possibly have come “down from heaven”? When his disciples heard Jesus claim that he had come “down from heaven” they too were extremely skeptical. They said

“This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?” And then this passage says that “From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.”-John 6:41,60,66 (NIV)

It was the “Spirit” of God which dwelled in him that had descended from heaven… not his physical body. The same thing was true of John the Baptist. Jesus said that John too had come down from heaven.

Have people today learned anything from these important lessons from the past? Two thousand years ago people were expecting to see a spectacular, supernatural event which no one could mistake or misinterpret. What they actually got was the appearance of an entirely new Prophet… one who appeared with the same spirit and power” of God which had, in centuries past, also descended upon Elijah. Is the Bible consistent? Yes. Does God change? No. but there a lesson to be learned here that most people haven’t grasped yet.

Who is TB Joshua? To be continued… Watch this space.

 

 

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37 thoughts on “Is it possible that the Messiah is already amongst us?

  1. These are my closing remarks on this issue. The bible in Revelation 22:18-19 says “For I testify unto every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book” The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all, in the name of Jesus Christ.

  2. Let’s make no mistake. TB Joshua is a Mighty prophet, humble servant and devoted priest under Christ Jesus. Yes, he is making up the soon return of the Groom… let’s not mislead pop by our writings. As the Prophet always stresses: NOTHNG OF WHAT IS DONE IS BROUGHT ABOUT BY TB JOSHUA BUT THE POWER FROM ABOVE, THE GRACE OFOUR LORD JESUS. Yes, TB JOSHUA is A Real Man of God!

    • oui amen ! Je reconnais que le Prophète TB Joshua est un véritable homme de Dieu ,pourtant dans le monde physique je ne l’ai encore jamais rencontré ,mais en esprit je l’ai vu , es ce le faite que je suis ses programmes TV Emmanuel ,je suis ses enseignements bien sûre en Français car je parle que le Français pour l’instant ,mais après j’ai eu regardé,et prier,je me suis endormie et je l’ai vu en esprit ,je me souviens pas de tout, car il m’arrive encore même réveillé de le voir dans mon esprit,je sais ce qu’il transporte, il est un véritable oint de Dieu que Christ passe par lui pour faire ses oeuvres sur toute la surface de la terre ,et j’ai la foi qu’un jour nos chemin vont se rencontrer ,car rien n’est impossible à Dieu !Je prie et je m’attends a Christ qui sait toute choses ,et tout ce qu’il fait c’est pour sa seule gloire ,et je me réjouis d’avance pour cette rencontre que Christ prépare déjà pour moi où je verrai son oint dans ce monde visible car c’est Christ qui prépare toute choses à merveilles je ne fais que de contempler sa gloire ! que le Nom de Yeshua mon Messie soit loué,adoré et glorifié au siècles des siècles Amen !

  3. The messiah right now is seated in the heaven at the right hand of the Father that is at the position of power,Mark16vs19 but he is present here on earth by the Holy Ghost, he is represented here by the Holy Ghost, the Holy Ghost cdlnt come here before he ascended to the father thats why he said my going is for your benefit that you may receive the gift from the Father which is the Holy Ghost,to conclude this, Jesus is with us by the Holy Ghost although he is seated at the right hand of the Father thats why he said”i am with you always even unto the end of the World” The Holy ghost is the full embodiment of Jesus Christ and our Father, thats why Jesus said he who has seen me has seen the Father, if you have the Spirit in you, you have the Father, you have Jesus Christ. God bless you.

  4. This same Jesus who you see go to heaven will come in like manner as the angels who stood by said-in the book of Acts. THIS INDEED IS A CATEGORICAL STATEMENT. IT IS NOT A FIGURATIVE EXPRESSION? MY DEAR. Christ ascended to heaven physically and in like manner will return. Otherwise, would God be ready to apologize for a mistake in biblical prophecy? My dear editor, if you have nothing to write about, stop advancing and asking such irresponsible question. Believers of the christian faith around the world would hold TBJoshua accountable if he does not distance himself from this rubbish.

    • “This same Jesus who you see go to
      heaven will come in like manner as
      the angels who stood by said-in the
      book of Acts. THIS INDEED IS A
      CATEGORICAL STATEMENT. IT IS NOT
      A FIGURATIVE EXPRESSION? MY
      DEAR. Christ ascended to heaven
      physically and in like manner will
      return”.

      …And you also mean to be seen by just 11 men? Or what would be different about this time?

  5. The whole world will see Christ come back! The 11 men were the first praeching witnesses of the resurrection. The second coming will attract the world we now live in my dear. They who pierced him will see him return from the clouds to earth. Stop making and developing an irresponsible and argumentative theology about a mere man born in sin and needs forgiveness to be saved.

    • “The whole world will see Christ come back! The second coming will attract the
      world we now live in”.

      Well pastor, this is my personal opinion and I wouldn’t argue because that’s the general belief of today’s Christian populace – all the more reason why they wouldn’t know He was here until he leaves with his people much like as it has been from the beginning – if the second coming would be so spectacular and unmistakable, Jesus wouldn’t refer to it as that of a thief’s coming at night.

  6. What you guys are unfolding goes beyound human comprehension. But i must confess I LOVE THE PROOFS. Looking forward for the continuation.

    • Mr. Albert

      No country should be depended on humans. God is the owner of all countries. There are 195 or 196 independent countries in the world today.

      They all should depend on God, the God of the Universe and of all things and of all the times as in Alpha and Omega even outside that. God is the God of the past, present and the future and He sees these simultaneously at the same moment in time, He sees me writing this and He approves of me being His Child.

      Nigeria, Depends on one mortal man ? How foolish ! It has written Fail on it from the beginning if you would look close to it.

      For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars. 2 Chronicles 16:9

      Ever since mankind has relied on men and women to steer them in the hope for a future, yet it has resulted in wars ever since fall of Adam and Eve.

      I thank God, In Him I trust Only, Glory to His Name and to be Exalted over all of the earth. Let all that has breath, praise the Lord ! Amen !

    • @ Ccb,

      Saviour of what ?

      Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

      Stop posting lies. Ccb

  7. Tb Joshua is the only name in the lips of the common man and the rich, government are no longer reliable Tb Joshua is now the only security of all.

    • @ Albert,

      Security in T. B. Joshua ? Wrong !!! Stop posting lies. There is only security in God. Here is the proof.

      He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
      Psalm 91:1-11

      Security in TB Joshua, yeah right, my foot ! On the solid Rock you stand everything else is sinking sand !

  8. A thief’s coming does not mean people will know at all. It denotes a surprise, my dear! Will jesus return and die again? Certainly not! Stop this. Stop giving false hope to your readers.

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  10. If you have receive jesus christ as your lord and savior, stop this nosense and rubish. remember hell and heaven are real.make your choice.for your information in my country no much people know about emmanuel tv or tbjoshua simple because there is a lot of so called prophets here and we are french speaker.i thank the lord jesus christ for that

  11. @ kali Tb Joshua do not need to be in french or speak all world languages to be
    the messaih christ was a Jewish can you speak Jewish, the trueth does not need your believe, even the isrealite do not believe in Jesus that you and i are calling the saviour today.

    • @ Ccb,

      Jesus spoke His Fathers’ language as well the Holy Spirit language, Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek. In His natural body when He lived on Earth.

      In His Spiritual body He speaks all languages of this world and universes, galaxies, all dimensions including tongues, dialects and languages of the humans and angelic Hosts. These He speaks with Might, Power, Authority, Glory and Infinity and His Words are Absolute Truth(s) as well He Himself is the Word and He is the worship in Spirit and Truth of all Truths which lasts Everlasting with no End to them. He is the Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And the Spirit of the LORD rests upon Him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. When He moves all things and matters move with Him, The Sekinah glory is the Ultimate Glory that surrounds Him. There is no comparison to anyone or anything on this earth or elsewhere in the Universe. All creation is breathing and speaking His Name consciously or unconsciously. Everything else fades to nothing when He appears.

  12. @ pst barjolor The admi is not saying that christ is coming to die the second time or tbj is Jesus what he is simple saying is that tbj have all the qualities of a messiah, he is sent to save the world simply put tbj is the messiah is of our time. We should know that in God any thing is possible, the ways of God is different form the ways of men. Up till today the isrealite are still waiten for the saviour because the way christ came was not the way the expected Him to come … Pastor let us simply pray for God to open our eyes to known who tbj really is than condeming each other who knows tbj may be the awaiten christ.

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  14. Thank God for the messiah in our midst it is true, i can feel it, i cant sense it from their works at scoan, the teaching, the miracle etc are just like old. i.e Elijah the prohpet, Elisha, Apostle Peter, Fathar Abraham, our father of faith.

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  16. Tb joshua is a mortal human being like u and i no doubt the holy spirit is with him as jesus said i will send u the helper and still the jesus christ isn him as jesus said i will be with u to the end of the world and him in jesus ! Jesus is in God he can be jesus in spirit not embodie the coming of jesus christ embodie no one know no the day or hour even the angels of heaven except the father as jesus said he cant be a jesus in body may the lord jesus christ give us more understanding amen

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  20. Tb Joshua has gift of knowledge that allowed him to know secrets of the people hearts from God’s perspective. God uses him in other areas like healings, teachings and finacial support. But TB Joshua is not a Messiah or the Messiah. He is not a Christ or the Christ, because there is only one Christ and Messiah Jesus from Nazareth. TB Joshua is not a God or the God. He is a man who was born again, his sins where forgiven, he is called by God to prophetic ministry and that is it. He was born in the village and he is uneducated person but he has gifts from the Holy Spirit. His English is not smooth-tongue. He forgot many times a letter “s” in the third person of conjugation grammar when he speaks in Englis. He has wife. With her he is one body and he has kids. Let’s be honest and see him in the truth. Let’s make him who he is in the Lord. Honor him but worship only Jesus Christ. Listen to him but belive only Jesus. TB Josua loves everyone but he trust only God. Trust only God, love TB Joshua but rely only on Jesus. TB Joshua was allowed by God to be persecuted in order to be humble and to not destroy his big ministry by a pride and thinking about himself to high. If you would begin to call him a Messiah or write such articles you will try to lead him into temptation to think about himself what he is not.

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