TB Joshua – the Messiah, matters arising…

In response to our recent articles portraying TB Joshua as the last days messiah as was prophesied in scripture dozens of questions have poured in from our readers, some of which we deem worthy of response as we herewith present. A question was asked by one of our readers who goes by the name Ruth. She asked;  

 If a man is the messiah why should he heal and deliver in the name of another?

Answer Remember how Jesus went to be baptised  to fulfil all righteousness, not because it was necessary for him to. If you can recall, one of the earliest accusations against TB Joshua which estranged him from other ministers was that he doesn’t mention the name “Jesus” when performing his miracles, So if you’re willing to accept it, it’s all to help our faith – to ease our process of believing, he had to come down to the level of mortal men who need mediation. A lot of those who would believe his works would doubt his source if they didn’t hear the name “Jesus” on his lips, and he wouldn’t want those he came to save to slip into unhealthy doubt over something he can so easily do, though it’s not a requisite for him because the spirit of Jesus fully Indwells Him. The same happened to Jesus whose reign was amongst the Jews who regarded Moses as the messiah. Moses gave them the law and stipulated regulations to cure skin diseases like leprosy which they judiciously followed. Jesus who Himself is the healer and did not need to go through all that process to cleanse lepers had to do a little of what TB Joshua does today (by using the name “Jesus”) when he told a man full of leprosy he had already cleansed, to still do what Moses stipulated for lepers cleansing (which was unnecessary) and go show himself to the Priests as a testimony to them, so that perhaps with their testimony of healing by Him (Jesus) supposedly through Moses, he would be believed. (Luke 5:14).However there’s a prayer point used in SCOAN in which TB Joshua releases His name to be used in prayer with exceptional results following. Subsequent posts might address the implications thereof.

*writers impression* As Jesus reigned amongst the Jews who regarded Moses as the messiah, so Joshua reigns amongst us Christians who regard Jesus as the messiah

This question was posed by quite several people which in summary goes thus; 

Question two:

Jesus strictly warned us saying; many shall come in my name saying I am the Christ, and shall deceive many. Isn’t this a warning against people like TB Joshua?

Answer; don’t be deceived, the context of this warning includes an explicit statement from the lips of the imposters, not an implied supposition which leaves much room for debate. they shall come in my name saying; I am the Christ Jesus assured of the false Christs unreserved and blatant proclamation of themselves as the Christ, but which to this day none has record of TB Joshua explicitly saying, neither is there any prospect of him admitting such in future, a fact to which even his fervent critics on “TB Joshua watch” testified saying:

“If you’re waiting for a video of TB Joshua explicitly claiming to be the Messiah; it won’t happen”.

 So TB Joshua does not fit this criterion; they shall come in my name saying; I am the Christ”. The deception of the false Christ centres on the outspoken claim to be Jesus or an incarnation of the Great GOD Himself. These they did and would do forgetting that a true Messiah NEVER bears witness of Himself, but rather allows his works bear witness of Him, (if I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true…the very works that I do bear witness of me John 5:31, 36).

You can call ‘bearing witness of themselves’ one of the “prohibitions” for a true messiah, they always leave mortals speculating about their true spirit nature. Jesus was also very secretive about his messianic status on earth and made no open claim of it, but kept saying and doing things only possible for the messiah, this led people to begin speculating;Some say you are John the Baptizer, others Elijah, and still others say that one of the prophets from long ago has come back to life.” luke 9:19.

 But the High Priests who knew that Jesus was implying being the Christ by his words (like “I came down from heaven”) and deeds (like “forgiving sins”), but got no explicit admittance from Him, had to charge him under oath by the living GOD to answer if he was the Christ, not that they might believe, but that they may hear it from his own lips and charge him for blasphemy. The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God (Matt 26:63) Yet he only replied “you yourself have said it.”

So forget about getting this confession of “who he really is” out of TB Joshua. It’s his best kept secret, little Wonder His latest message on the SCOAN official Blog is: “KEEP YOUR MYSTERY” because that is what he’s in fact doing. When many testifiers on Emmanuel tv are about to refer to him as the “messiah of our days”, he cuts in and prevents it. You don’t see any of it on emmanuel tv, the ministry’s official blogs and sites? (The best mediums to propagate these if he wanted it) All of which to this day still portray Jesus Christ as the messiah and not TB Joshua. If you would have us state it clearly. TB Joshua himself doesn’t want you to know any of what is written here Just as Jesus instructed His disciples to tell no man that he was the Christ till His mission was completed Matt 17:19. We do this as a way of letting you know who he really is, that you may value him the more, benefit from his Grace and honour him as He honours Christ before his departure.

*Messiah’s at Work* when those who labour and are heavy laden come to the Messiah, they find rest for their souls, Jesus was one, TB Joshua is another – the Reigning one.

Regarding the nature of the second coming of Christ, some readers quoted this portion of scripture to support the theology of an open coming of the messiah seen and noticed around the world.

Question three:  

Matt 24:27, for as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28For wheresoever the carcass is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

 Answer; This text seems at first glance to mean someone coming out of the sky like a flash of lightning, and is thought to be exactly so by numerous Christian faithfuls worldwide, but how true is this popular belief in Christian circles? Knowing fully well that it was Jesus design to speak in parables to fulfill the prophecy, I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter things hidden since the creation of the world. (matt 13:35)

 The text is evidently one of the strongest supports for the theology of Christ falling out of the sky to earth on his second coming. But If you’re willing to accept it – this is what the parable means; The lightning that comes out of the east and shines even unto the west is the Glory of the last days Messiah whose splendour would spread all over, far beyond the boundaries of where He originates from, (Just as lightning is experienced far from where it originates)  …that it would attract pilgrims from all over the world, which was why Jesus continued …For wheresoever the carcass is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Christ was in a sense describing His last days Glory as honey which insects would definitely seek and find, or carcasses which birds of prey always seek and find, meaning that pilgrims would seek and find him on his return from the farthest corners of the world, just as it was during the days of His First earthly Ministry.

 If your eyes are good, you’ll observe that this is what is happening in the SCOAN today, People of all Nations, Pastors, Prophets, politicians, the rich, the poor, small, great, popular and obscure flock to TB Joshua’s synagogue to find rest for their souls and receive life in abundance. So great is their number that it has to be restricted by asking them to wait for invitations before coming else there’ll be total chaos because there would be no ground to contain the influx of people. So many are those who borrow money to fly down to the SCOAN from other countries and continents of the world, others who aren’t so fortunate to get loans journey by road and sea and foot for months just to get to the Scoan from their country, Just as it was during his first earthly ministry. Because He saw their needs and met them; filled with compassion when he saw people without faith and hope as He still does even today.

So for our friends at tbjoshuawatch asking for a biblical prophecy TB Joshua fulfilled  this is one fulfilled in your hearing today – if you’re willing to accept it that is.

To be continued…

 Please note; Questions should be plain, civil, direct and concise - a collection of entire bible chapters as a question will put your question(s) out of consideration. Thanks.

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24 thoughts on “TB Joshua – the Messiah, matters arising…

  1. Please, people of God stay very far from this group of people, running this watchtbjoshua. They are waging a war against the Prophet and want to rally all those christians who are babes in the word. Please do not take them serious and do not accept them as friends on your facebook, as they will use you to peddle BLASPHEMIC messages. WHO IS FOOLING WHO?

  2. I would like to comment once again on this matter this way; I do not have anything against prophet TB Joshua, in actual fact I would like to come to SCOAN one day as I have never been there before. But one thing for sure; I do not want to lie; I do not think he is the messiah or the Christ. To me as he portrays himsef to be, he is a humble disciple of Jesus Christ. Jesus sent His disciples to the end of the world to preach the gospel in His name, those who believe in Him will perfom the miracle as He did even more than He did; they will cast out demons, trample upon the serpents, they will drink poison and it will do them no harm…. Why! because they believed in Him and obeyed His command. Prophet TB Joshua is one of those sent, he is willing and obedient. Let us not allow the devil in the church to sift the hearts of believers and deceive even the elect. As a matter of fact, there lots & lots of Christians who do not mature in Spirit and tend to fall for just anything they hear to the demise of their walk in Christ, they fall prey to the lies of the devil because they do not know that he can pretend to be the son of light

    Regards
    SPN

  3. The answer you provided on this question: Matt 24:27, for as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28For wheresoever the carcass is, there will the eagles be gathered together; raises some concerns. Do you mean that like people flock to TB Joshua’s is because of the carcass where the vultures gather, in the old testament God forbode that animals that died natural death, or mauled by wild animals not be eaten, likewise the vulture is an unclean animal. I believe some of the answers to your comments are going to tarnish the image of SCOAN as it is highly regarded by devout believers including me. I read all the questions and comments today; but the answers are beside the point. Jesus Christ is the only messiah, we are waiting for His second coming, the hour and the minute are not known to Him nor to the angels but to the father alone. What are so sure about is today we are living at end times, the scriptures must be fully fulfilled and the gospel must be preached to the end of the world, then the end will come. I am briefly explaining Matthew 24 with my emphasis. What is written in the Bible is irrefutable and it will remain. Heaven and earth may pass away, Christ said, but my words will remain

    • Apart from the fact that this is our personal opinion, and in no way represents the views of TB Joshua and SCOAN, If our answers tarnish the image of SCOAN before you (or those like you) its because you allowed it to, because there’s nothing that can circumvent or hinder or control the firm resolve of a determined soul and btw, i think you misplaced “eagles” in that text for ‘vultures” in your explanation.

  4. Jesus Christ was crucified on the cross as the Messiah, and His blood washed away our sins. Paul says “while we were still sinners Christ died for us” Romans 5:8. Will TB Joshua die for the sinners and that his blood wash away our sins again ?

    • When Jesus was arrested for His crucifition,and Peter drew out his sword and cut the ear of the high priest’s servant , Jesus said” sheathe your sword, shall I not drink from the cup which the Father has given me” ? What mandate has God given TB Joshua to be called the Messiah ?

      • Will TB Joshua die for the sinners and that His blood wash away our sins again?

        No,the bible says Christ Died once for all and no other sacrifice is required. That was Jesus specific mandate from God, TB Joshua came to continue from where He Jesus Left off.

        2.

        What mandate has God given TB Joshua to be called the Messiah ?

        The previous post addressed this question with TB Joshua’s statement during an interview where he made his mission statement known. He said He came to set people free from sin…and that His mission was to give abundant life… (link note his reply to the fourth and 19th question)

  5. King James Bible (Cambridge Edition)

    Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

    Someone’s soul is being stolen with such teachings and treading towards the chambers of hell and spiritual death…..as well damnation from God Almighty with this blasphemous teaching.

  6. How dare you to compare TB Joshua to Yeshua, the only begotten Son of God, who has more than 365 Holy Names, the incarnate Word of God come into flesh as the The Only Light of the World, The Saviour, the God Who is One, besides Him there is no other. Jesus Christ, the only One that is sitting next to the right Hand of God. Who is only represented by only Person on earth, which is the Holy Spirit, Who does not need any Mortal on this Earth to do the Work that Jesus did with the help of His Father.

    For many will come in my name, and they will say. ‘I AM THE LIVING GOD, The Messiah’, and they will deceive many.

    The Bible says that “every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God..” If you believe the full meaning of this statement, “Jesus Christ has come in the flesh”, it means first of all that you believe in Jesus Christ. Consider the name Jesus-do you believe in that Name? The Bible says, “And thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins.” If you believe in Jesus, you believe in a Saviour for mankind. The name Christ also has a meaning. It means Messiah, the anointed One. This name has the connotation of a deliverer as well. Those who believed the statements made by the prophets of the Old Testament looked forward to the coming of this One Who would be sent from God and anointed by Him to bring deliverance to oppressed people. This then is the meaning of the name Christ. Jesus Christ-the Saviour and anointed Deliverer sent by God! Thus it is seen that the statement which seemed so simple has deep significance. Satan, the unholy spirit who hates God and all that is good, will never confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. He does not want anyone to believe in that Name for the Bible says that Name is a high tower-a place of safety for the one who believes in it and takes refuge in it. The Bible also says this: “Jesus Christ was made in the likeness of man.” This means He came in the flesh. Jesus Christ, Who is God, became man – came in the flesh. Satan, the unholy spirit, uses many ways to keep men from believing that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.

    There is NO other human being worthy to be called the reigning Messiah tha zjesus Christ alone. No other Name as well under Who’s Name we are forgiven or being saved. No other human has the authority to forgive sins than The Blood of Jesus Christ as well God the Father.

    Stop this Blasphemy about the TB Joshua as the reigning messiah. Just stop it ! It is a lie !

  7. Your proofs looks preety convincing.but what is the summary/Conclusion of this opinion? I know you haven’t for once mentioned that T.b. Joshua is Jesus Christ. Are you dodging that question? Now to your Opinion, who is T.b.Joshua? Give me your summary about T.b. Joshua.

  8. TB Joshua was born out of a woman that was a Muslim as far as I do know. Claims to be born again in his mothers womb.

    1 Now there came a man of the Pharisees whose name was Nicodemus, a member of the council. 2 He came to Jesus at night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could do the miraculous signs that you do unless God were with him.”

    3 Jesus replied, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

    4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter his mother’s womb and be born a second time, can he?”

    5 Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born from above.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

    9 Nicodemus replied, “How can these things be?”

    10 Jesus answered, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you don’t understand these things? 11 I tell you the solemn truth, we speak about what we know and testify about what we have seen, but you people do not accept our testimony. 12 If I have told you people about earthly things and you don’t believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven except the one who descended from heaven—the Son of Man. 14 Just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.”

    16 For this is the way God loved the world: he gave his one and only Son that everyone who believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18 The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God. 19 Now this is the basis for judging: that the light has come into the world and people loved the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil deeds hates the light and does not come to the light, so that their deeds will not be exposed. 21 But the one who practices the truth comes to the light, so that it may be plainly evident that his deeds have been done in God.

    This is now the confusion here. Here is claimed about TB Joshua that he was born again in his mothers womb. Does anyone really understand here that that goes against Gods Word ?

    Give me any Scripture or command from God that validates such claim TB Joshua as a simple human being with a church somewhere in Lagos ? I really think you should close this site concerning this if you can’t.

    I don’t know if you know, but Jesus did not have a church, nor a building for Himself. He is the embodied Church. Is TB Joshua the embodied Church ? If you claim he is, the more reason you should close this site because it goes against anything Who God really is. As I said before, God is One besides Him there is no other and Jesus, His Father, The Holy Spirit are One. John 14-16. Where does TB Joshua or the Wise men fit in there ? I rrrrrrreally advice you to close this sit quick before you become a total laughing stock and I mean it. God bless you…

  9. Any forecast of a diversion concerning Hurricane Sandy which is roaring towards the USA coast by the special prayers of TB Joshua and his followers ? If he is the last reigning messiah, he surely has an input concerning that with God Himself right ? Will we soon see a demonstrating authority and power as Jesus did in stilling the storm in that boat ?

    ……. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calming_the_storm. …….

  10. Who are you to tell us that TB Joshua is the messiah? Are you now claiming to be John the baptizt? Ehhn, you think i don’t know what you’re doing? You think I don’t know that you are using style to tell people that you are John the baptist, tell us where is your river Jordan, ehhn, did you baptise people TB Joshua is Gods sent to this generation but you who are you? Fake John the baptizt that want to show us the messiah

  11. @ TB Joshua watch

    Ummm, TB joshua could have shown his reigning messiah status, by hiring off CNN, Fox News, and show is that he was able to change Gods mind in stilling the Hurricane Sandy. Anddddddd….. What happened ???? Absolutely nothing !

    Proof that TB Joshua is just a mere man like everyone else is…..

    Please close this site, thank you….

    • @Jesse let the American goverment be humbling come to Tbj for help and see what he can do the prophet can not just go to america to stop the hurican their most be a coresponding action frist from the american governmen.

  12. whoever came up with this conspiracy is sick in the head. TB Joshua is not the Messiah , He is just a prophet of God. stop missleading people

  13. @ John2

    Hmmm is it not ” distance IS NOT A BARRIER” according to the quotable quotes in SCOAN ? Prove it ! Stop having convenient excuses.

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  15. Thanks God almighty about TB Joshua. Those who commet negatively are devil & his messngers. This comment is true.

  16. Did everyone forget that Jesus said that there is NO other name under heaven by which we are saved? And ” to the law and testimony if they speak NOT according to this, its because there is NO light in them”. People Jesus said that satan and his demons with be able to transform themselves into angles of light and be able to perform miracles. Just because this man “appears” to be able to heal does not mean he is sent of God. This “sect” is taking the parts of the bible they want to fit what they want to fit and leaving out the rest that will clearly show that this man is a farce. So dnt worry about it cuz God will deal with this man in his own way. I just encourage everyone to read their bible for themselves and ask for the Holy Spirit to guide their mind. Those that truly and with an honest heart want to know and follow the truth He will lead. That’s a promise

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