“OUR FATHER, TB JOSHUA!” – decrees Malawian High king

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Malawian King, HRM Williard Mswati Gomani The 5TH is a first class King in the Nation of Malawi, News of his ascent to the throne was relayed worldwide by various international news outlets like CNN, some would think that men of such status would have little or no use of Prophets until he was seen live in the SCOAN Sunday service, His mission in Nigeria was to consult the able Man of God on a very pressing matter, one that meant his very reign as a High King of Malawi was under threat.

Malawian King, HRM Williard Mswati Gomani The 5th

This visit of the Malawian king to TB Joshua in public glare seems to have been prompted only by his quest for the recovery his lost crown of great kingly significance, which of course if you’re a viewer of emmanuel tv, you know how the story goes – the king’s crown got missing during his coronation, the King then visits Scoan to locate the missing crown, and during that time TB Joshua prophesies that the missing crown would be recovered – even after three months of futile search for it. Then the crown is miraculously discovered on the corridor of the palace after TB Joshua’s prophecy (where an object could hardly stay a minute without being noticed) click here for the full story.  The touching part of this event was seen during the King’s testimony and vote of thanks at the SCOAN in which he referred to TB Joshua as “OUR FATHER”,  the word  of a King differs from that of common men, and as such is a decree, much like how King Nebuchadnezzar decreed the God of Daniel as their state God. So for those who still think TB Joshua bribes his way to the lips of the testifiers at SCOAN, you would do well to explain to us how much of a possibility lies in leaders of this caliber being bought to lying about the spiritual graces of TB Joshua (of which they’ve enjoyed), before their total subjects and the world at large.

While this may seem to be yet another miraculous fulfillment of TB Joshua’s prophetic words to many, looking at the bigger picture, the historical encounter between TB Joshua and the Malawian High King in addition to TB Joshua’s encounter with other leaders of nations of his caliber, is one that easily reminds us of the scriptural relationship between the “prophets” and the “kings” in the Old testament which has ultimately fizzled out to this present generation where prophets have been relegated to the back seat in the society, and are completely left out of the most far-reaching decisions taken by each Nation and as a consequence landed the nations of the world in severe economic crisis.

Though to many Christians today, the great days of the prophets who conquered kingdoms and led God’s people to victory, is no more than an interesting literature record of past events, as we now live in an age where the dictates of a prophet are  only regarded by the common men, and treated with levity by those in positions of authority, whereas  In the days of Elijah, Elisha, Samuel etc. the kings were the ones who desperately sought out the prophets when in dilemma, (even while having a squad of special advisers on the matter) and humbly submitted themselves to the prophet’s instruction to be saved when in crisis, to be victorious during war, to be healed when in sickness, and even for the appointment of successors to the kings throne following his demise.

TB Joshua – the Child of Prophecy – the One whom the Supreme Being assigned to cleanse the world and lives to restore the Lost glory of the Prophets

 The recurrence of this sort of divine order where presidents and kings are submissive to the Prophets in today’s civilized world would be generally regarded by even Christians to be a mere pipe dream, but now appears to be a reality that is much closer than we think with the reign of the last days messiah, the man in the synagogue, the child of prophecy who lives to restore spiritual balance to an unbalanced world. An unbalanced world where prophets and pastors have become political instruments, and pawns in the hands of the high and mighty, to speak and do their bidding as long as it places currency in their pockets.

Instances of the SCOAN playing host to the likes of the Malawian High King are not at all rare but a very common occurrence in TB Joshua’s synagogue and the purpose of their visits includes salvation of their souls, spiritual fortification, and (God knows) foretelling of what the future holds for their political ambition and what could be done in its regard. But the rate at which these leaders, government officials, presidents, kings and the likes visit TB Joshua in His synagogue is beginning to send overwhelming signals across the globe for those who are sensitive enough to realize what is in the making, it wouldn’t be much of a surprise if the time came when he becomes the one who appoints them and denounces others who aren’t God’s choice in the same manner of appointment of the ancient kings by the prophets in biblical times.

 If you think this would be too great a feat for TB Joshua to achieve, it would interest you to consider how the Zimbabwean political party officials of ZANU PF stepped up their campaign against TB Joshua after the state media claimed that prime minister, Morgan Tsvangirai had invited TB Joshua to officiate at the Zimbabwe National day of prayer on May 25. President Robert Mugabe’s allies reportedly feared that TB Joshua would use the visit to anoint Tsvangirai as the new head of state and to counter that effect they began casting aspersions on TB Joshua.

President Robert Mugabe’s allies reportedly feared that TB Joshua would use his visit to Zimbabwe to anoint Tsvangirai as the new head of state in Mugabe’s stead

His fears aroused widespread discussions amongst the citizens of his country, even amongst pastors some of whom emphasized that TB Joshua had no authority to install a president in their nation, a Zimbabwean Anglican bishop Nolbert Kunolga who expressed similar fears was quoted to have said

TB Joshua’s visit does not scare me because he is not of God. What are people scared of? What is he coming for? Does he have the power to take life?  He is not a KINGMAKER, all authority belongs to God.

And like the wise would agree, no one fears an event that has no chance of occurring. When the fear of an event exists, the possibility of its occurrence also exists.

And while we look forward to these future events, consider carefully that this isn’t a feat to be accomplished by a mere prophet, but a messiah, one who was appointed by the Great God Himself to restore the Lost glory of the prophets, to lead them out of the closet of being mere instruments in the hands of politicians, the high and mighty in society. He is God’s spokesman, the divinely ordained prophet who announces the exact will of God to the people and as it were, the messiah of this blessed generation. If you still  insist he’s just a mere prophet, we also couldn’t agree more on that with you, considering that even Jesus himself was a prophet (Matt 13:57, 21:11, Luke 13: 33).

It is true his works so far on earth are regarded as great but greater works are still to be wrought by his hands, such that would astonish all mankind.  The Sovereign God is presently using Him to cleanse the whole world of which we are all witnesses but two parts of his mission are still to come, which is to harvest and judge the whole world just as it is written of him and to know in what capacity he would be doing this watch out for subsequent posts…

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20 thoughts on ““OUR FATHER, TB JOSHUA!” – decrees Malawian High king

  1. E.S.D

    I WATCHED THE ENTIRE TESTIMONY ON EMMANUEL TV LIVE,SHAME ON THE DETRACTORS OF TB JOSHUA,OUT OF ENVY, THEY HAVNT EVEN IMAGINED THAT THE PRESENCE OF TBJ IN NIGERIA DIRECTLY INCREASES THE REVENUE OF NIGERIA, CHECK THE NUMBER OF VISITORS ON WEEKLY BASIS THAT VISIT SCOAN, VIRTUALLY ALL THE HOUSES AROUND IKOTUN/EJIGBO/ISHERI HAVE BEEN CONVERTED INTO GUEST HOUSES FOR BOTH THE DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL TOURISTS, EVEN THE NIGERIAN TOURIST BOARD APPEAR NOT TO RECKON THAT SCOAN REMAINS THE MOST VISITED SPOT BY FOREIGNEERS IN NIGERIA.THE KING AND HIS SUBJECTS ARE TRUE AFRICANS,THEY MERELY GAVE HONOUR TO WHOM HONOUR IS DUE.

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  2. Jesse

    @ the readers and owners of this website,

    Clearly the Malawian king has not read his bible at all. Otherwise he would have known that Jesus rejected to be called father.

    Here is His reply to those who were addressing Him concerning that:

    And call NO MAN your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is IN HEAVEN. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. (Matthew 23:9-11 KJV)

    Jesus clearly says don’t call any human your father than His Father Who is in Heaven. He even says that no-one should be called your master either. Because God is your Master. The great I AM that is due with all glory, praise and power for ever and ever.

    Also it is written that: The LORD of hosts hath purposed it, to stain the pride of all glory, and to bring into contempt all the honourable of the earth. (Isaiah 23:9 KJV)

    In there we see God speaking about Tyre and Sidon, the proud nations who were found foul in the sight of the a Just God.

    and that clearly written:

    But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
    (Isaiah 64:6 KJV)

    Let’s look what the Prophet Samuel said about the choice of man for a king:

    And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel. Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba. And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment. Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah, And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations. But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD. And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, BUT THEY HAVE REJECTED ME, THAT I SHOULD NOT REIGN OVER THEM. According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee. Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that shall reign over them. And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king. (1 Samuel 8:1-10 KJV)

    Samuel clearly here rehearses the nature and evils of kingly rule and even God Himself confirms that mankind has rejected Him personally and go with earthly rulership. Everyone knows since that day that mankind has gone down the drain ever since. Hence the chaos we see today in this world of contempt.

    No wonder that God said in Genesis already: The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
    (Genesis 6:11-13 KJV)

    When man chooses a rule by the flesh human choice not far from it there is disaster lurking and all abominable things are rearing their ugly heads up.

    The Malawian king is searching for answer in another man, instead he himself should enquire answer from the Most High God about his reign and kingship. Again here it shows the horror and error that has taken place here and this king was not relying on his faith that was given him by Almighty God and rule accordingly.

    I am distraught that my King of kings Jesus Christ the Lord of lords, was given a lowly place in all of this.

    And when they saw him (Jesus), they worshipped him: but some doubted. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:17-20 KJV)

    Yet still the Malawian king has to enquire and question his own rulership with another man who is passed off as a “prophet” ????

    The Malawian king definitely does not understand what the Scriptures says in Jude:

    Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
    (Jude 1:24-25 KJV)

    and

    But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know ALL things.
    (1 John 2:20 KJV)

    and

    But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that ANY man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of ALL things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. (1 John 2:27 KJV)

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    1. Doi

      @Jesse.
      You say;
      “Clearly the Malawian king has
      not read his bible at all.
      Otherwise he would have
      known that Jesus rejected to
      be called father”

      that is a blantant lie and i haven’t come across such in my bible. Jesus never rejected People or even His disciples calling Him father/master/Rabbi. Here are a list of bible versers where He was called such without any rejection.
      Luke 17:13″ as he was goimg into a village, ten men who had leprosy met him, they stood at a distance and called out in a loud voice, ‘Jesus, master, have pity on us!’
      matt 19:16. ” now a man came up to Jesus and asked Teacher, what good thing must i do to get eternal life?”
      mark 9:17. “a man in the crowd answered, Teacher, i brought you my son whn is possessed by a spirit that has robbed him of speech”

      They certainly gave Jesus even more titles that wasn’t written. But the point still remain, Jesus never took the Glory, or honour. And this was wht He was actually telling the crowd and His disciples in matt 23:1-12. Giving them reasons not to take Glory and honour. Which I have never seen T.B. Joshua do since 1994 which i became a part of SCOAN.
      Jesus makes it clear you have one father who is in heaven. But why do you call your biological father, FATHER? It’s a sign of respect which your dad doesn’t take as anything praisworthy. That is what makes him clean. And what makes T.b. Joshua Justified.

      You also say. “even God Himself
      confirms that mankind has
      rejected Him personally and
      go with earthly rulership.
      Everyone knows since that
      day that mankind has gone
      down the drain ever since.
      Hence the chaos we see today
      in this world of contempt. No wonder God said in Genesis, already the earth was corrupt before God”

      but previously you said everyone on earth can exercise the anointen of God even with the violence/corruption and disobeidence. How do you expect God’s spirit to dwell amongst such? When verse 29 of 1st John 2. Says ”if you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who DOES WHAT IS RIGHT (according to His will) is BORN OF HIM”

      the malawian king actually relied on His faith for so long, it was definately a fruitless effort and struggle hence decided to seek the face of God, from the one who hears directly from God. Like peter surrendered to God’s authority rather than His own effort and prayers. Luke5:5.

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    2. Emmanuel Awah

      JESSE,
      If you are a real Christian you must know the truth and say it. Come out clean on the faults of Prophet T.B. Joshua against the Bible and why you of all people think you are a better Christ follower. What you can not do and you see others doing it, common sense should have told you to keep quite and enquire of God to show you his line of defense which no man can fault.
      When Christ left, the Appostles did wonderful things,but today Christ Generals are after seed sowing,offering,jeeps,jets,universities that even the poor in their church can not attend,hospitals for the super rich and on and on. While the devil is busy destroying people with sickness and demons, our so called men of God which Jesse represent are also leading us to dance away our problems that refuse to obey their self inspired command.
      In all God and Jesus knows who is serving him faithfully,so keep quite.

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  3. Albert

    Tb Joshua is the saviour of the world…critis go to heal you can not stop him, the more you persecult him the more he move in it’s greatness

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  4. Jesse

    @ Doi, something is really wrong with your interpretation, watch and learn from me for a change and drop your corrupted theology once and for all.

    Let’s look at the context of what Jesus actually was saying in Matthew chapter 23. Speaking of the scribes and Pharisees, He said:

    (v. 5) But they do all their deeds to be noticed by men; for they broaden their phylacteries, and lengthen the tassels of their garments.
    (v. 6) And they love the place of honor at banquets, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
    (v. 7) and respectful greetings in the market places, and being called by men, Rabbi.
    (v. 8) But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers.
    (v. 9) And do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
    (v. 10) And do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ.
    (v. 11) But the greatest among you shall be your servant.
    (v. 12) And whoever exalts himself shall be humbled; and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.

    Catholics (and others) will often argue that Jesus was really only saying for us not to call someone “Father” if they don’t deserve it, like the scribes and Pharisees. But Jesus didn’t say, “You can call others ‘Father,’ but not the scribes and Pharisees.” He didn’t say, “Only call the deserving leaders ‘Father’.” And He didn’t say, “Call no one ‘Father,’ except for priests.” No, He said to CALL NO MAN “Father.” Jesus clearly tells us who is deserving of the title: No one on earth (v. 9).

    Doi, you really don’t get it do you. It’s no surprise either because your “master” is NOT correcting you and leaves you with this distorted doctrine in your mind running around.

    I hope you will not become like Jannes and Jambres in the bible always learning, never coming to know the Truth.

    Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. 2 Timothy 3:8

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  5. Eromo.s.d

    *watchtb joshua*-you appear to be giving this person MASQUERADING as JESSE over blown attention,he is obviously an agent of PFN that has remained blinded to the wonderfull works of GOD . SCOAN has repeatedly potrayed that JESUS still lives and that he never said goodbye even as HE went to the cross,therefore healing, deliverance and all the blessings of GOD are still very much with mankind.His EXCELLENCY THE KING FROM MALAWI came to SCOAN to confirm the prophesy that the crown will be found. Maybe if we read our HOLY BIBLE very well we will understand clearly that there is nothing strange about that.

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  6. Jesse

    @ Albert,

    I have to reject your assertion about T. B. Joshua as the saviour of the world. What does the bible say about this Albert ? It is clear you have not read it from cover to cover.

    Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given AMONG MEN, whereby we must be saved.

    2 Peter 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and SAVIOUR Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

    1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the SAVIOUR of the world.

    Hosea 13:4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no God, but me: for there is no SAVIOUR beside me.

    There are many other verses that refer that God is ONE and that as three Persons, which are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (Ghost), Albert.

    The one God: Father, Son, Holy Spirit

    Passages that say and prove there is only one God:

    For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. Genesis 2:24

    there is no one like Yahweh our God. Exodus 8:10

    Yahweh, He is God; there is no other besides Him. Deuteronomy 4:35

    Yahweh, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other. Deuteronomy 4:39

    See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me Deuteronomy 32:39

    Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one! Deuteronomy 6:4

    You are great, O Lord God; for there is none like You, and there is no God besides You 2 Samuel 7:22

    For who is God, besides Yahweh? And who is a rock, besides our God? 2 Samuel 22:32

    Yahweh is God; there is no one else. 1 Kings 8:60

    You are the God, You alone , of all the kingdoms of the earth. 2 Kings 19:15

    O Lord, there is none like You, nor is there any God besides You 1 Chronicles 17:20

    You alone are Yahweh. Nehemiah 9:6

    For who is God, but Yahweh? And who is a rock, except our God Psalm 18:31

    You alone, Lord, are God. Isaiah 37:20

    Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me. Isaiah 43:10
    I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me. Isaiah 44:6
    Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none. Isaiah 44:8

    I am Yahweh, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God. Isaiah 45:5

    Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God. Isaiah 45:14

    I am Yahweh, and there is none else. Isaiah 45:18

    Is it not I, Yahweh? And there is no other God besides Me, A righteous God and a Saviour; There is none except Me. Isaiah 45:21

    I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me Isaiah 46:9

    And Yahweh will be king over all the earth; in that day Yahweh will be the only one, and His name the only one. Zechariah 14:9

    No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth. Matthew 6:24

    For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh? Matthew 19:5

    But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. Matthew 23:8

    Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ. Matthew 23:10

    The foremost is, ‘Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; Mark 12:29

    you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God? John 5:44

    I and the Father are one. John 10:30

    This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God John 17:3

    The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one , just as We are one John 17:22

    since indeed God is one Romans 3:30

    to the only wise God, Amen. Romans 16:27

    there is no God but one 1 Corinthians 8:4

    yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him. 1 Corinthians 8:6

    Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one. Galatians 3:20
    There is one body and one Spirit, one hope, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. Ephesians 4:4-6

    Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God 1 Timothy 1:17

    which He will bring about at the proper time….He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen. 1 Timothy 6:16

    For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 1 Timothy 2:5

    You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. James 2:19

    For certain persons deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. Jude 4
    the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. Jude 25

    Albert, There is no place for a fourth one in the form of a human called T. B. Joshua or anyone to that effect. Sorry, but the Word of God is not allowing this in it’s sole theological interpretation in any translation whether in Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic.

    @ Eromo,

    I have no idea what you are referring at concerning your allegation. I have not even a clue what PFN stands for. What is it ? Neither am I masquerading as anyone here than telling the absolute truth of God’s Word.

    I don’t want to wake up sleeping dogs here, but there is always a very strong possibility that this so called “kingly crown” disappeared on purpose conveniently for certain political reasons. It seems to me extremely rare that a “kingly crown” just so suddenly disappears. Just saying.

    I apologize for the long answer, but I have read my bible from cover to cover and I am not using scripture as I see fit for an interpretation that is not existing. Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. I follow Jesus Christ not any other man. Thank you,

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  7. Jesse

    Doi, I have explained that is has to do with asserting someone as your spiritual father, because that is where the Holy Spirit is for. So go find Him, the Father there is. Concerning father in the sense of the word regarding your own biological father is for what I perceive a name for the elderly or older persons in your life. As far as I see it, it is just a name and not a spiritual title regarding this article written here. Further I see the majority of people call their father, Pa, Papa, Pop, Papoose, Pim, Dad, Daddy, Dada, Dadio, and other nicknames. Personally I don’t know anyone who calls his father by the name of Father as in the spiritual sense what this article is referring to. So no.

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  8. Jesse

    I would like to explain a little more on this post regarding calling someone OUR FATHER and why I am against it.

    Exodus 15:2 The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father’s God, and I will exalt him.

    My father’s God, from the original text = Elohey abi, Deus meus, pater meus est, “My God is my Father.” Every man may call the Divine Being his God; but only those who are his children by adoption through grace can call him their Father. This is a privilege which God has given to none but his children and not towards human beings dwelling in this earth. No matter how spiritual they are.

    See Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

    The scripture does not address anyone else than God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit to be your Father, father with capitals as in being your spiritual Father.

    This is the error I want to address concerning TB Joshua titling Him as Father or FATHER and OUR FATHER. No matter how smart he comes over he is still NOT your Spiritual Father. He is just a pastor and that is it. Period.

    We all should know when we would address someone as OUR FATHER, we trespass on the fact that when Jesus taught us to pray OUR FATHER (The Lord’s Prayer). Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

    How can you address someone here on earth as OUR FATHER ? Is TB Joshua in heaven ? No, he is not, he is here on earth. Is his name hallowed, No, because he is not God. IsTB Joshua’s kingdom coming ? No, it’s Gods Kingdom that is coming. Is TB Joshua’s will to be done on earth as in heaven ? No, it is Gods will to be done here on earth and in heaven.

    If you guys don’t get these basics of theological exegesis, especially those who have been in the SCOAN for over 18 years!!!, then I am asking you seriously why is it that you don’t know this and how did this come about ?

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    1. watchtbjoshua Post author

      Let it rest Jesse, have you never read what paul said;

      1 Corinthians 4:15 NIV
      Even though you have ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel.

      Unless in your opinion paul also got it wrong. I’ll rather hear your view on TB Joshua being the one who appoints presidents and Kings in the future.

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  9. Jesse

    @ Watch TB Joshua,

    Hah ! You were waiting to have the last word on this ? That scripture I have read, even last night, let God be my witness, don’t you worry. Again, it means again pointing out the elderly, the older people, the learned in the church as in a teacher, wise man, as in a name “fathers”,even parent, not Father or FATHER with a capital as you wrote here. Which is clearly a spiritual reference that only belongs to God the Father and belongs to no man on earth. You keep hanging on that error because you all see it fit for purpose to stick it on TB Joshua because it sounds so nice and in your eyes he deserves it.

    The expression is also hyperbolical concerning that word: perhaps some reference may be had to the multitude of schoolmasters, tutors, and governors, and who also were called, “fathers” or even later the early church “fathers”, which those that were Jews of this church at Corinth had before they believed in Jesus as for example the members of the great Sanhedrim, the great number of doctors, wise men, Scribes and Pharisees, who pretended to instruct them.

    As well the meaning of that many offer to instruct you who have no parental feeling for you; and how can they? You are not their spiritual children, you stand in this relation to me alone. For in Jesus by the power and unction of his Spirit, I have begotten you he says and I was the means of bringing you into a state of salvation, so that you have been born again: ye are my children alone in the Gospel.

    No one can come to the Father than if He draws them in the last days. John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    Yet still you stick this title upon TB Joshua because you think when he has “delivered”, “healed them”, done “miracles” for them and that is the so called “salvation” you all think it is working while that ability only lies with God the Father Souvereignly alone. Who is the only Father worthy as well Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit and no-one else is. There is not a fourth man in that triune relationship. It is only there when it stinks of arrogance of self pride and false theology in SCOAN that someone belongs in there.

    It is very likely so that no-one is saved because of this nonsense and incorrect doctrine, simply it does not say anywhere that you are saved by having a deliverance, healing or having a miracle. (Those so called “deliverances, healings and miracles are up for debate and scrutiny when closely looked at and critically investigated thoroughly).

    You still have to confess it with your mouth and believe it in faith in your heart and you still have to work on your salvation until you die and then the judgment. There is no other way than that. That sort of thing is not done in any way or form in SCOAN, whether by open confession, baptism in water or call upon Jesus to baptize them in spirit and fire and calling upon God to impart everyone with a gift of the Holy Spirit and any other ways including communion for the entire congregation once a month. Nor does TB Joshua travel from place to place to have an excuse of not doing that. Nor is he an Apostle and why the disciples of him don’t do it, if he does not want to do it himself. John 4:2. This is all under the lame excuse of we are waiting for instruction….as well the pass off since it is not a command we will not exercise such rights that belongs to regular church life.

    I have seen the excuses of it written elsewhere in other places in this website and the other one which is called TB Joshua Watch and from those that wrote an answer on that. I can only say this is a teaching that comes straight from Satan and his demons , since Satan does not want anyone to be saved as is done in biblical times. The excuse is that you lot have to wait for instructions about it and that is why you hang on TB Joshua to initiate that. Which he never will do because that teaching will never be practiced in SCOAN ever. Hence for me a sincere reason to reject anything that flows out of there.

    I said to you before, Power does not travel in words, gobbledegook doctrines or demonstrations of the spiritual, but in true relationship with Jesus, God the Father and His Holy Spirit. Matthew 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

    I really have come to the conclusion that you must have sold your soul to Satan somewhere along the way to keep preaching such abominations and errors because you are clearly hellbent on it to declare i here to unsettle weak in the flesh walking christians that have no proper knowledge of God’s word in their spirit and will be drawn in such great deception by the droves because of their ignorance including the king of Malawi. Pity it does not work and stick on me. Isn’t that frustrating ?

    I would like to end with the following matter and truth for you to investigate for yourself and others that visit here concerning:

    Who will justify him that sins against his own soul? and who will honour him that dishonours his own life?

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  10. Mercy Mwale

    All who are against TB Joshua are not Christian, they dont read what the Bible is saying that those who believe will do more than what Christ did. Do you think God can only created a world without forfillment with his Words without sending some one to continue the world of God. Pray and believe to God and be a born again God will also pour his spirit to you not every one who do wonders is a satanic. I saw T.B. jOSHUA delivering the people using the Name of Jesus. These people will be seen with their characterics, feeding the poor , caring the orphans. widows, sponsoring them. Can you mention those prophets who are doing these to people nowdays they just wanted to rich themselves. Others who seek the God presence will do this. I watched and hear what the SCON is doing. I wounder why people are telling that T.B. is a Messia. One day you will go to SCOAN and manifest yourself. God can use people like T.B. to deliver the world. Why dont you say that Bonke from American is a Messia but because is some one who is from Africa. GOD forgive you all.

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  11. Jesse

    @ mercy,

    Yes, you will see a lot, but you have not read II Thessalonians 2, have you now ?

    Whose money is it anyways? The people who give. If hundreds of thousands give me monies and I take my share from it that sufficeth me and the rest I give to charity, what would you say ? Likely that I am a great person and lay at my feet with big smiles. Because money talketh. Everyone who is millionaire has tons of friends. Mostly false friends. Check out the story if the Prodigal Son. Has always been like that.

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  12. Jesse

    @ Mercy,

    Deliver the world right. Whose power is it anyways ? TB Joshua’s ? Wrong ! Power is from God.

    You clearly have not read:

    1 Samuel 2:6-9
    The Lord killeth, and maketh alive:
    he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.
    The Lord maketh poor, and maketh rich:
    he bringeth low, and lifteth up.
    He raiseth up the poor out of the dust,
    and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill,
    to set them among princes,
    and to make them inherit the throne of glory:
    for the pillars of the earth are the Lord ‘s, and he hath set the world upon them.
    He will keep the feet of his saints,
    and the wicked shall be silent in darkness;
    for by strength shall no man prevail.

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