‘Healing’ at SCOAN: Are patients encouraged to stop taking medication?

By Watch TB Joshua

Though TB Joshua was mentioned in the BBC article, it was clearly in a disingenuous way that in no wise connected either him or his ministry to the deaths the BBC article reported. The SKY report followed suite and attempted an irresponsible inquiry into the SCOAN UK HIV screening by sending spies as patients with spy cameras, still they got nothing on SCOAN. The report never rose above the level of a baseless insinuation. Read an experts review on the BBC and SKY reports.  Furthermore, any rumors that the SCOAN London branch has been practically shut down should be disregarded as it is not factual, visit the SCOAN london official website,  you’ll learn that the report about SCOAN London given by SCOAN critics is baseless and untrue.

TB Joshua says; as for me and my household we are using medicine.

The BBC and SKY reports were in no way factual, TB Joshua himself says; as for me and my household we are using medicine.

The SCOAN does not ask sick people to stop taking medication. As part of SCOAN’s foundational belief, medical practitioners are God’s messengers in the same way ministers of the gospel are. The wisdom to treat a sick person with the power of nature according to TB Joshua is God-given, but as it is with anything physical, it is limited in its ability to cure. There is only so far medical doctors can go before it becomes clear that a case is beyond the power of medicine. Hospitals of outstanding repute worldwide have reported cases of patients with health complaints, whereas their diagnosis reports the same person to be healthy.

TB Joshua couldn’t have better explained his disposition as God’s representative on the matter of medication when he categorized health challenges as “SICKNESSES”and “CURSES”. According to the amiable man of God, the former can be treated by doctors because it is natural due to physical elements, however, when that sickness goes beyond the power of nature it means it is a curse and no longer a sickness, therefore no amount of medical therapy can cure a patient suffering from a curse because only Jesus Christ can justly remove a curse.
This further explains why similar health challenges can be treated with the same methods, yet success is achieved on some while others report a failure and in some also, even something people easily recover from like a headache results in unexpected death. The world needs to believe that there are things beyond the power of nature. Everything in the absolutes of science and technology is falling apart, with medically incurable diseases accruing up to a large extent in the world, we simply must return to God who is the compassionate healer of our wounds and stop doubting His ability to heal or limiting his ability to heal to certain ailments. read more.

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8 thoughts on “‘Healing’ at SCOAN: Are patients encouraged to stop taking medication?

  1. Jesse

    @ Watch TB Joshua,

    “I know critics of T.B Joshua are agents of the devil.”

    Explain, how can we be agents of the devil ? How do agents of the Devil look like ?

    Do you really think we sit together and drum up the Devil and his demons and then start writing here ?

    The lame excuse of that we are possessed is another one. Well go on then, Go to God and demand from Him to deliver us. Go on a 100 day fast, take 10 people and start casting out our in your head imaginary demons or stop the Devil coming to us. Because after all if this Scripture is true then it is easy to apply if you claim that “Emmanuel with us”.

    And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Matthew 16:19

    Go on, make my day. Show your prowess and your capability of casting out in your head imaginary demons. I am waiting. I am waiting longggg time now.

    Just a note, Watch TB Joshjau, you have no power over me, nor TB Joshua, nor any of the Wuzzmen or disciple. Because I can’t be bought or coerced to make a scene in front of a camera. That is already tried and done with me, if you must know.

    Just for your information, they called me in front of the entire congregation to drink the so called “anointing water” under supervision of TB Joshua in Lagos. Yes, church was full, every seat was taken. Guess what happened ? Nothing. No frothing, no shaking, no throwing up, no peeing, no defecating, no screaming, no silly stories to tell, no healing, nor deliverance of anything. Then TB Joshua called me back to the pulpit and shook my hand and laughed, because he knew there and then that I was not for sale to make a scene for him and the rest of the congregation.

    Yet you call me agent of the Devil ! Say What ? How am I then a agent of the Devil ? Telling your the truth here of the horrible things that happen in that church behind the closed door and in secrecy ? Are you brainwashed or something ? Again, go on deliver me and I will laugh in your face because of your foolishness you are displaying.

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  2. Jesse

    @ Watch TB Joshua,

    “therefore no amount of medical therapy can cure a patient suffering from a curse because only Jesus Christ can justly remove a curse.”

    What a nonsense.

    For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. Galatians 3:10-11

    What does Galatians 3:10 mean……

    They only receive it. For as many as are of the works of the law. As God deals with on that footing, only on the terms the law proposes, are under a curse; for it is written, Cursed is every one who continueth NOT in all the things which are written in the LAW. Who continueth not in all the things. So it requires what NO MAN can perform, namely, perfect, uninterrupted, and perpetual obedience.

    Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of THIS LAW to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen. Deuteronomy 27:26

    What did Jesus say ? Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, one jot or one tittle shall in NO wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    And the law is not of faith: but, The man that DOETH them shall LIVE in them. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. Galatians 3:12-14

    Since Jesus became a curse for us, we are no longer under a (the) curse. How can then those be sick because of curse ??????

    Even Paul was not well and he was struggling with that and the Lord said to him, my grace is sufficient for YOU !

    And…..

    Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be JUSTIFIED by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. For ye are ALL the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:15-26

    So then, this article is falling apart by it seams because,

    Romans 8:1 There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    Yet you tell here in your strange doctrine that those who are uncurable sicknesses are under a curse. Why then the heck are you all not going to all the hospitals in the world including Nelson Mandela and tell them you are under a curse because you are not getting healed, only a mediator AKA TB Joshua can take this away from you.

    While this only is laid away for Jesus to do so. (Observation first hand has learned watching TB Joshua he does not do it in the Name of Jesus, then standing in front of them and hums or moves his hands.) Like you see Shamans do in Russia, Mongolia, and other places in the Caribbean, Haiti, Dominican Republic and Africa. (When is this going to be discerned by sincere hardcore Christians LIKE I AM !)

    What a crock and lies. Down from the bottom of hell and the Abyss where Apollyon/Abbadon is the overseer of.

    This twisting is where the deception is and the craziness of this teaching that is misleading their readers and filth that comes from regurgitating false doctrine demons from hell.

    Now wonder the bible says and confirms here:

    For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

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  3. Jesse

    @ All,

    This writer is claiming that those who are under these incurable diseases are under a curse.

    Ebola
    Polio
    Lupus
    Creutzfeldt Jakob Disease
    Diabetes I
    Cancer
    Radiation sickness
    Snake Bites what causes flesh to rot of their bones
    Leprosy

    Really ? Take leprosy, did Jesus say to them you are under a curse ? Now I have removed it, go show yourself to the priest ? Where is such matters written ?

    Who comes up with that garbage ? Oh wait, it is TB Joshua and Wuzzman, known heretics. Hey TB Joshua I appreciate your non education, but I would point out to you, that you should go to a Theology Seminar and lay your fantasies in front of a comittee and see how far you will come with all this nonsense.

    Hey, I am still waiting for deliverance “Distance is not a barrier” style. Why has it not reached yet ? Oh wait, I probably have to wait for a lame excuse. Something like that God does not want to deliver me because it is better to be with every (imaginary)demon that is conjured up in my body remote controlled in story format.

    Now I have found you hands down with all kinds of failure and proven that you are a sham, 419 scammer, a liar and a deceiver. What do you have to say ? No surprise, most Africans are deceivers, liars.

    I was recently served by an Nigerian African and he lied through his teeth about things he knew that I was right and he did not care whatsoever. Even the headoffice had said so. He promised to call back. But he does not, because he is a scammer and a liar. He had no shame and feels he did his company a service with his lies to me.

    Black people become more and more a sham and liars and then they ask why they are so persecuted. Just look at them, look at Fred Price, Look at Creflo Dollar, Look at Uebert Angel, Look at Makandiwa, Look at Snoop Dog, Look at Jay Z, Look at Beyonce, all filled with cheating and lies. Full of demons and walk freely with their lies and deception. And you are proud of your inheritance and what you represent. I am saying this without being racist because facts don’t lie.

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  4. Jesse

    To whom it may concern,

    @ All,

    Description of a con man or con woman. Does anyone see familiarities ?

    In Confessions of a Confidence Man, Edward H. Smith lists the “six definite steps or stages of growth in every finely balanced and well-conceived confidence game.”

    “One follows the other with absolute precision. In some games one or more of these acts, to use a theatrical comparison, may be dropped out, but where that happens the game is not a model one. The reference to the stage is apt, for the fine con game has its introduction, development, climax, dénouement and close, just like any good play. And this is not the only analogy to the drama, for the scenes are often as carefully set; the background is always a vital factor. In the colorful and mirthful language of the bunko man, all these parts of the game have their special names. I give them with their definitions:

    Foundation Work

    The preparations which are made before the scheme is put in motion, including the elaboration of the plan, the employment of assistants and so forth.

    Approach

    The manner of getting in touch with the victim—often most elaborately and carefully prepared.

    Build-up

    Rousing and sustaining the interest of the victim, introducing the scheme to him, rousing his greed, showing him the chance of profit and filling him so full of anticipation and cupidity that his judgment is warped and his caution thrown away.

    Pay-off or Convincer

    An actual or apparent paying of money by the conspirators to convince the victim and settle doubts by a cash demonstration. In the old banco game the initial small bets which the victim was allowed to win were the pay-off. In stock swindles the fake dividends sent to stockholders to encourage larger investments are the pay-off.

    The Hurrah

    This is like the dénouement in a play and no con scheme is complete without it. It is a sudden crisis or unexpected development by which the sucker is pushed over the last doubt or obstacle and forced to act. Once the hurrah is sprung the victim is clay in the schemer’s hands or there is no game.

    The In-and-In

    This is the point in a con game where the conspirator puts some of his money into the deal with that of the victim; first, to remove the last doubt that may tarry in the gull’s mind, and, second, to put the con man in control of the situation after the deal is completed, thus forestalling a squeal. Often the whole game is built up around this feature and just as often it does not figure at all.

    In addition, some games require what is called “corroboration,” which means what it says. This is important in games where a banker or other shrewd customer is to be the victim.”

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  5. Johan van Rooyen

    People who are taking medicine before they visit Scoan are never told to stop taking their medicine, but when the symptoms of their afflictions disappear, they personally stop taking medicine. The church never advises people to stop taking ARV’s. If a man is paralised and walks after he has bee prayed for, does it make sense to push him back into his wheelchair to push him around?

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  6. margie

    @ Johan Van Rooyen, my dear you are quite right how can you push a lame to use a wheelchair again because she or he healed. So Amen to that people stop themselve.

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