A SCOAN Dark Secret REVEALED! Nosa Osaghae’s torture

Nosa Osaghae, Victim or Culprit?
Nosa Osaghae, Victim or Culprit?

That the man in question (Nosa Osaghae) alleges to have being harshly treated by the SCOAN’s security isn’t much of a hassle to grasp, but for the graphic detail with which he expresses the alleged cruelty that it almost seems rather fictional or at the very least exaggerated; credibly a masterpiece of creative prose with the intended effect of wooing the sympathy of folks who might never be opportune to verify the real truths of the story. By his account, he had undertaken a journey from Abuja to the SCOAN HQ in Lagos to deliver a supposed prediction to a foreign disciple yet under training; with instructions to leave the SCOAN and look for another ministry, only to have himself incarcerated and tortured by SCOAN security personnel. Let’s see what we can dig up from Nosa’s story with his very own testimony. Apart from Nosa’s infuriatingly faulty approach in boycotting all the proper procedures necessary to visit the SCOAN to waylay a foreign disciple in training with such an insensitive message, he by his supposed “prophecy” to the foreign disciple appears to be one of those hungry black cleric  charlatans who wanted undue recognition and attention to be given him by a foreigner as a seer, the end to which he’d expect the successful inclusion of a “white” person as a member of his own church.

God has never been revealed to author confusion. In Acts 9:17,  In the manner he appeared in a vision to Ananias instructing him about Saul, so He did likewise appear to Saul informing him to await the coming of the one through whom he would receive his sight. Did the disciple Nosa approached to leave SCOAN have any revelations concerning him and his upsetting message prior to his coming? The disciple (Now ex-disciple) is silent on this as well, and our guess is a resounding No, perhaps this informed the disciple’s decision to report him and his counterfeited prophecy to other disciples who then (quite rightly) handed him over to security for interrogation. Security personnel in SCOAN we know are trained to respond to diverse security challenges oftentimes requiring the use of force, taking cognizance of the myriad of safety challenges they regularly

Visitors to SCOAN often fall easy prey to cleric charlatans who defraud them in the guise of being "sent" by God
Visitors to SCOAN often fall easy prey to cleric imposter’s who defraud them in the guise of being “sent” by God

face as the SCOAN plays host to pilgrims from around the world. They’ve witnessed countless similar scenarios where bogus prophetic claims are communicated to unsuspecting pilgrims with fraudulent objectives and would have likely found Nosa Osaghae’s on interrogation to be no different. If you’ve ever been defrauded by one of these cleric charlatans, or heard their victims story, you’ll understand how this is a massive deal for SCOAN security personnel.

Save for the part of the awful episode being with the consent of TB Joshua, since this was certainly an inferred speculation from his story, were we even to take the road less traveled by SCOAN supporters and hypothesize the worst scenario that the details supplied in Nosa’s story are infallibly correct, that he was in fact wronged not in the least manner short of his description. Everyone can easily attest to TB Joshua’s unquestionable loving character, but cannot undauntedly attest to the godly consistency of all his disciples, much less security personnel. However we try to obscure this fact, it is undeniable and perhaps for this you might desperately wish that TB Joshua were nailed to a stake. But then, ever wondered why one of the closest disciples exquisitely coached by the Christ to love enemies and turn the other cheek when smacked, would in his masters defense turn bizarrely ferocious to the extent of chopping off the ear of one who merely posed slight threat to his master; and a man under authority at that? (John 18:10Today we could compare this to stabbing a police officer just because he asked a man to identify himself in the crowd. We could even further consider that peter almost certainly wasn’t just trying to cut off the man’s ear; he was trying to take off the man’s head. Anyone who has had experience in the use of a sword or a saber knows exactly what peter did or tried to do, Malchus survived only because he dodged sufficiently so that the sword just grazed his sideways-ducked head, cleanly taking off the ear, as peter swung the weapon with everything he had. So much, you might say, for the fruits of the three yearlong coaching on LOVE Jesus constantly supplied his disciples that peter shows off such a brute  behavior, very unbecoming of one who had received thorough lessons in Love and life. Although Peters actions are undeniably verified in scripture much to our shame, it would be absolutely inappropriate to attribute his brute behavior as one of the “fruits” of Jesus earthly ministry. Same applies to TB Joshua, his disciples and workers for a servant cannot be greater than his master. Unless of course you want to raise the stakes for the servant what the master couldn’t himself achieve while with his disciples.

Conclusively, if by any chance in all eternity there be any credence to Nosa’s story, it was rather unfortunate for dear Nosa that TB Joshua wasn’t present to rescue him from the enraged security personnel, just as Jesus rescued Malchus and ordered peter to sheath his sword. Or do you seriously think the TB Joshua you know, if present or made aware of his case would stand still there gloating over him being chastised if it were true? though we completely doubt it, we would love to hear your thoughts in the comments.

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188 thoughts on “A SCOAN Dark Secret REVEALED! Nosa Osaghae’s torture”

  1. Ops. Sorry mr Nosa but what where you actually expecting to happen? Using such a crafty and unreasonable method and manner – They should serve you food on a sparkling diamond fashion table and give you a golden spoon to eat?. To me, if you approach me in such a manner i’ll definitely believe you are a trickster and a fraudster and call the police to handle your case. And i think thats what actually happened. Why make a big deal out of it? But what i need to know and what is missing in his story is how he left scoan.. Actually we need that part in the article.. We need the full article.

    1. @jesse
      Tell tb joshua watch,to show also Nosa’s fotos,showing the marks of his wounds
      When i asked that question on your fellow blog,they didn’t answer instead they started to delete all posts,why then?Is Nosa’s story really happened or its a fabricated lie?then show the world the fotos of his wounds

    2. @JJF
      It didn’t even happen.This is a big lie that tbjoshua haters fabricate to destroy our prophet tb joshus as they are experts in destuction but they will never succeed.
      They went just to find a poor man they can give money and post his foto passport to show the world that they fake article is true.But if it was true ,they could also post have posted the fotos showing the marks of wounds of this poor man to convince more people.Even a 10 years old can testify their article is absolutely a fake one like all their previous articles in tb joshuawatch rubbish site.

  2. The fact that this man was beaten at SCOAN does not mean that TBJ instructed that be done. I guess he did not follow SCOAN rules because every house has it’s own rules on how to get accepted there. Bulldozers will always meet such treatment. Hope he has learnt lessons from that.

    1. @ pehhias,

      No, TB Joshua never instructs anything. Stop your speculations and your willingness to fob people off with empty non existing proofs.

      Where there is smoke there IS FIRE.

      1. @jesse

        We can see a smoke coming out of your dirty mouth too,and the fire will consume all your fake testimonies including all your fake vision you claim to see you teaching wise man harry the word of God.You blasphemer fake prophet,why dont you continue telling us about your vision you had from God then?

        You claimed “since tb joshua can prophesy ,you can prophesy too”.So why dont you continue with your prophesy then?false prophet go and call jamie,and grandma tbjoshuawatch to come and save you again,as they did in your fake site by deleting all my posts because you got guilty of my all responses to your fabricated lies..
        False prophet go and call them then.

  3. Did i hear them say securities?
    For goodness sake a security has no other function but to detect suspicious movememts and kick against fraudulent behaviours. This is why they were well trained and positioned. What do we expect from any security?
    Whatever treatment osaghe received, it was purely his fault cos he got it all wrong. If God sends you on a mission He’ll definitely make a way. Where God guides He provides.Act 16:35-40.
    If he was totured without any vindication then his vision and mission are Questionable. He definitely has to check himself b’cos the devil also gives visions but it takes a matured mind and a high spiritual intellect to distinguish. Which i strongly believe Nosa lacked.

    1. @ Doi,

      Everything is questionable from others and suspicious who expose SCOAN.

      I can testify of the treatment and arrogance in so many ways. They are capable of the most induced horrible feelings of depression and confusion as well distraction. Before SCOAN I never felt depressed than besides feeling just down.

      And when you do have eventually an encounter you will be spiritually raped and inevitably knocked into you spirit that you need months to recuperate to be normal again and function in your daily life and job.

      As one said in a post to me that I am hellbent to destroy this ministry, which is a outright lie.

      From all the attendance at SCOAN has got me nowhere, no healing, no deliverance, no prophecy, no blessing that I can verify of all the years of wasting my time inside there, nobody is going to give me back that part of my life.

      And when I come here I am accused of being a liar and what I say is not true, while I have proven time and time again that I am not and that especially Martin Ncube has insinuated me that my wife is a liar and has married many times before with a false prophecy from TB Joshua concerning that and that my wife has only married once and that is with me and no one else. I have the evidence she was not and I have the evidence that I am not too.

      None of you will now admit that what I say is true and TB Joshua gave a false prophecy concerning her marital life. No shame either. I would suggest to his daughter to stop studying law and follow her dream to be a English teacher. Because her father forced her to do so, while she did not wanted that. It only proves again of his dictatorship also over his family. This visibly evident how his children are being corrected when even how to hold a microphone in front of a deliveree under so called “deliverance”. Again what I am saying is true.

      1. jesse
        False prophet,everything that come out of your durty mouth must be questionable!
        You claim to have vision in dreamsand suddenly your dreams was stopped and you did’nt go further to tell us how and when we shall expect your dream from God to come true.
        So as i have been reading many of your fabricated comments ,i concluded your dreams are delutions and hallucinations.
        So everything you can say must be questionable!

      2. you sound like Scoan is a devilish temple that eats you live when you go in. but how come you went in and out of Scoan and you aren’t dead yet? means you were under a protection there. you can tell everyone here that you weren’t healed or delivered, that you can keep. but one thing is clear; for you to be alive though speaking against the protection you are still under, its because of the grace and prayers in SCOAN. believe it or not.

    2. @Doi
      Doi ,this beating have never happened.It is just tbjoshua haters like jesse who can believe this, because they have demons in them who instructed them to fight the kingdom of God

      1. thats certainly an eye opener Kiki.
        they should actually prove to us that this man in Question was actually beaten. Nosa Himself should come here and speak for himself. if he could be so bold and courageous to allow them input his photograph in their post i see no reason whatsoever why he shouldn’t come defend himself here with more concrete proofs. if he doesn’t do that then these whole thing was a setup. cos all they are best in is deception. deceiving readers and themselves. those with high interlects can’t be deceived.

  4. Even our Lord and Saviour has warned us that on that day He will say go away from me I don’t know you, remember Jesus words are a force. So if you are disobedient to Jesus don’t expect a warm relationship with Him. Gentlemen don’t pretend that Jesus tolerates nonsense, disobedience. Look deep into what happened to Judas Iscariot. You may say that Jesus did nothing but check what happened in the spiritual realms. Remember man is spirit not body and God is interested in your spirit because he, spirit man came from God.

  5. During my visit to Scoan last year during Easter I had the unfortunate experience of several of these verbal and physical abuses at Scoan. TB Joshua purportedly knows everything that happens on his church property. Saturday night people line up from 10pm to attend church as day visitors. The “police” occupying the post at the entry to the church parade the line with their long batons, not to keep order but to seek a victim to beat up, an act that is repeated every Saturday night. The unfortunate victim is beaten up to an extent that he can not go to church because of his blood stained clothes. Everybody sees and nobody talks!! After lunch, I was in the service, hidden at the back of the church by the usshers because I was a “problem” to the disciples because I speak out about their dishonesty, I decided to leave and at the one entrance found the usshers punching the people trying to get in. The police also threatening the people with their batons. I will not be told that TB Joshua does not know about it, in fact, I believe he allows it. This I personally experienced and think it is disgusting! He says, ” I do not respond to my critics because it is not I doing the work!” Is God then instructing the Police and usshers? I do not believe so. I challenge TB Joshua to have crusades in South Africa as he so many times promised!!! Ask him why he will not and listen to the lies!!!!

    1. shit johan,why dont you have crusades in south africa yourself?You challenge tb joshua?who are you then?who do you think you are you disgusting snake son/ daughter of the devil.
      Tb joshua does not fear anyone in the world including your father lucifer.Just go and be closer to him,we will you and all your demons consumed by holy ghost fire,shhuuu you dont have anything to say here,this is not your place,you have gone to the wrong adress,this site is holy,,yours is darkness,so take your way to the pit of hell!

    2. shit johan,why these police did not beat your big shit mouth then?go back please ,you need to be corrected seriously because you are a blasphemer ,instrument of the devil,a liar and a destroyer!you need to be beaten really by police until you confess all your sins to fabricating lies against TBJoshua,shu you are disgusting!

  6. @ those who care to read the truth,

    When we were in Lagos, Ikotun Egbe, main building, one evening late we were sitting outside on a bench in front of the side entrance where the prayer lines are taking place, a main security person came up to us and spoke with us in urgent and insisting speech that it was noted that we were sitting there and that TB Joshua was noticed immediately about that we were there.

    We were urged, co-axed and with persistent gestures from the security that we returned immediately inside the main building, because TB Joshua had demanded that we return inside of the Cathedral. We were shocked and surprised that we were treated like that. Even when we arrived we were collected in both up and down travel times with ARMED GUARDS in front of our transport vans.

    So don’t tell me anything or lies of trying to wriggle yourself out of this true story that has taken place, because I am first hand witness of the harsh treatment that the security guards and that TB Joshua knows exactly what is taking place right there and then when something is happening.

    Take responsibility and admit your failure to represent yourself of the truth that has taken place and stop justifying the issues at hand as the reality that takes place inside and outside SCOAN wall. Stop wriggling and confess your sins.

    1. mr Jesse do not for a min
      accuse the security. what
      would you be doing sitting
      at the entrance of a
      building that is not owned
      by you? i guess you were
      planning something evil.
      Thank God the securities
      noticed this ontime if not it
      would have been a
      different story. expecially
      with this state of mind
      within you.EVIL! EVIL!
      EVIL! the security only did
      what they have been traind
      to do.
      this is the singular problem
      with people. they go to a
      certain place, byepassing
      the rules and when they
      are handled they atttibute
      it to the head. this is the
      height of abnomality. next
      time Jesse obey the rules
      and regulation and stop
      trying to bite more than
      you can chew. the same
      applies to this so called
      Osaghe.

    2. @jesse
      a failure is someone who spends his time to fight against another ministry because his own has failed and dead

  7. @ those who care to read the truth about Security SCOAN Actions.

    I knew personally a high scholar and friend in theology in Nigeria and is an established PHD and DD and has has written more than 12 theses and numerous books that are available on the market for everyone to buy.

    Before I went to Lagos, we spoke on several occasions about our trip to Lagos and that we would meet up somewhere in New Lands and that we would ask for him that he could have an interaction with TB Joshua and the church.

    As soon as we arrived at the side church entrance the security stopped us and blocked our way. We politely introduced this minister and requested if we could enter the building and make our way to TB Joshua’s office.

    Guess what happened, they all of a sudden went ballistic about that we could not do that and it was not allowed in any way or form. This over protectiveness shows how unreasonable the SCOAN security is. The same counts for Dorcas who was also hell bent to not let us see anything around TB Joshua’s office.

    It proves again and again that I am speaking the truth and that their sinister and evil practices are for all to see through my testimony that what I am saying is true. While they keep lying about how holy they are and better than anyone.

    1. @jesse
      Prophet jesse,hihihi how are you,i got you again,you thought you will escape when your protector tbjoshuawatch started to delete all my posts because i was making trouble on your fake site! let first go somewhere i will be back to answer all your posts.and tell your protector the grandmum tbjoshuawatch to post Nosa’s fotos showing the marks of his wounds,it will be more convincing than posting his passport only,hahaha,wait a moment prophet jesse will come back soon to comb your hairy tail…..!!!!!!!!!

      1. If you say this site is trash, why are you the one who makes the most comments? Your continuous defence of the people who work ay Scoan shows how little you know and your ignorence is pertinent. Man of God knows what goes on and gives all the instructions himself in person! Do not make a fool of yourself by trying to argue about things you know nothing about!

  8. mr Jesse do not for a min accuse the security. what would you be doing sitting at the entrance of a building that is not owned by you? i guess you were planning something evil. Thank God the securities noticed this ontime if not it would have been a different story. expecially with this state of mind within you.EVIL! EVIL! EVIL! the security only did what they have been traind to do.
    this is the singular problem with people. they go to a certain place, byepassing the rules and when they are handled they atttibute it to the head. this is the height of abnomality. next time Jesse obey the rules and regulation and stop trying to bite more than you can chew. the same applies to this so called Osaghe.

    1. @johan
      a trach is yourself and your foolish ignorant mind.This site is called watchtbjoshua and the rubbish one is tbjoshuawatch

  9. jesse you had better be very careful because this is complete rubbish. why on earth will you visit Scoan without an invitation? haven’t you continously watched the announcement on Emmanuel tv? well i guess you watch for motives of pin pointing errors and for nothing else. then bear whatever treatment you receive there. and please you don’t hang on SCOAN’s premisses for business transactions.

  10. I dont see any difference between Prophet Jeremiah and Prophet TB Joshua.
    6  I will pronounce judgment
    on my people for all their evil—
    for deserting me and burning incense to other gods.
    Yes, they worship idols made with their own hands!

  11. @ Jesse I have been following your concerns about Prophet TB Joshua. All you write is not based on scripture but what you think or as you claim experienced while staying @ SCOAN.

    The Bible says 7 “But to you who are willing to listen, I say, love your enemies! Do good to those who hate you. 28 Bless those who curse you. Pray for those who hurt you.

    If you care to follow Jesus, pray for the church through out the world, give your love,
    forgive us if we have offended you. I love you because you are created in the Image of God. God Bless you Jesse

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  13. In other words people have to just come around to your way of thinking and believe everything that you say because you have to be right.

    Sorry to say you are wrong and indeed your ‘evidence’ lacks credibility and validity and substance.

    Also the majority of the users on this site require some form of help and advice, I fail to establish what your contribution has made.

  14. @ Doi,

    Who is in control of life and death ? SCOAN ?

    Now you don’t even sound more absurd than credible.

    How do you know I will not die from being exposed of these powers they have wielded. How many have already died, I have mentioned this dozens of times and find out who on the other website TB Joshua Watch. There are even names. Never in any ministration a person died under me. Never. And it is well known that true sick people like I was don’t get healed in SCOAN. Not even for the simplest and easy thing that was. You all blame it for having no faith, is that the best you have got ? Did you know that people get healed without faith, like atheists, satanists, witches, so they have faith too ? So what kind of faith is that then, tell me ?

  15. @ Doi,

    What is it then ? I got nothing out of the entire experience of SCOAN. Nothing. Nor my wife, nor my family, nor my friends, nor my neighbours. Nothing. I don’t give a hoot about if you stay and get all absolved in it. I am OUT, glory to God, freedom, finally at last. Stay in your controlled abusive by dictator TB Joshua cult. Good luck, be happy.

  16. wow!!! i really do not understand what is actually going on here. i thought the admin said we should be concise and civil why now do we diss and rain abuses on each other like the fire hails of old. i really think we should go with those who drew our attention to the fact that the wounded photo’s of mr osaghae should be uploaded for an expository lucid understanding of the post on tbjoshua watch because to me the post makes no sense and it is absolutely mundane and baseless.

    why on earth do we think that when a girl is raped and molested, it is in the advice of the police, that she report immediately to the station with the blood still rolling down her body????? in the same vein, we at watch t.b joshua await the evidence to prove what mr osaghae is saying and afterwards we know what next to do. i know i am definitely speaking the mind of many readers. if you are in support of the wounded pix upload say AYE!!!!!!!!!!

  17. wow!!! i really do not understand what is actually going on here. i thought the admin said we should be concise and civil why now do we diss and rain abuses on each other like the fire hails of old. i really think we should go with those who drew our attention to the fact that the wounded photo’s of mr osaghae should be uploaded for an expository lucid understanding of the post on tbjoshua watch because to me the post makes no sense and it is absolutely mundane and baseless.

    why on earth do we think that when a girl is raped and molested, it is in the advice of the police, that she report immediately to the station with the blood still rolling down her body????? in the same vein, we at watch t.b joshua await the evidence to prove what mr osaghae is saying and afterwards we know what next to do. i know i am definitely speaking the mind of many readers. if you are in support of the wounded pix upload say AYE!!!!!!!!!!

  18. @ Ene,

    Look at the other website and find another testimony of a visitor. @ TB Joshua watch.

    It does happen. Facts don’t lie and denial is not a river in Egypt.

    1. @snakjesse

      Does a testimony justify another testimony?
      Stop your foolishness,you got ashame for posting nosense accusations and now you do not have where to hide anymore.Where is the wounds pics then of Nosa?Is the other testimony have the pics od nosa’wounds for proof?shhuu snake you are ridiculous

  19. @ Kiki,

    I sat with him AT THE TABLE IN THE DINING ROOM AT 2 am in the morning.

    It never failed, that is the truth. Ask him if I discussed with him the words “aion” and “aeon ion”

    Every time you make me a liar, while everyone can see you twisting my posts to let it look its the opposite.

    Now apologise and do what you promised to do.

    1. wiseman harry was indeed wise because snake jesse tried to get something from him but he did not get anything to put his evil plans in action that is why he still angry with him and starting to give fake vision in the hope it will work

  20. @ Doi,

    Half of my posts are not posted, so how could I defend myself. Hypocrites.

    What about the post when TB Joshua “prophesied” over my wife and Martin Ncube was alleging that my wife was a liar.

    FOR ONCE MORE, MY WIFE AND I ARE BOTH MARRIED ONLY ONCE AND NEVER BEFORE !

    So the prophecy was a lie. I gave extensive evidence with proof of a Apostille stamp that YOU DON’T GET IF YOU WERE MARRIED BEFORE ON YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS THE ONLY ONE EXISTING THAT IS. Which is now in my marriage book.

    You are all defending a false prophet and a liar, admit it and get off my case I am a snake.

    1. @jesse
      a false prophet is someone who gave out a prophesy that he saw himself teaching wiseman harry.This false prophet is very obsessed with wiseman harry and he can do anything to try to approach him as well as paying money for that.
      what is his mission then?

  21. @jesse

    when you discover your challenges are getting harder for you to handle the situation,you go hiding.isn’t it?are you still warming up or?where are Nosa’s wounds photos then?

  22. @jesse
    Facts are not talkings but seeing.Anyone can accuse however he wants.Beatings like this article is written,have to be proven by pics of marks of wounds not by reading other articles.Are you for real to think like this?

    1. @ @

      Prove to me then that it did not happen. Several people have reacted here what happened to them. I believe them, because it happened to me too.

      It will continue to happen, just as Manuel from Mexico moved my hat and personal stuff without asking, again I prove that you are all liars and a bunch of nasty pieces of work. A brood of vipers. The more you go in denial the more I will prove you wrong.

      1. @jesse
        you and you rubbish site you are the one who has to prove it happened because you are the one who brought accusation on scoan you foolish childish mind,you never think like a mature person

      2. @jesse
        thanks Manuel fro mexico,you are wise,people who are suspects like jesse must be watched very careful,because these people come in scoan with many plans in their small brain.Keep doing the good job.

  23. @ Ene,

    Everyone opens up their backside in due time normally.

    I guess this is not the case with you, that is why it has all reached up to your eyeballs.

    Secondly, I am not lying, what I have said is true. Nor am I evil, I care about people practically all the time. Your impression about me is wrong. Nor do I hate anyone, but cannot stand by idly to those who take advantage with trickery, deceit as well using God as a means of progress at the expense of people. That is what I do, get the facts right, that you don’t believe it is not my problem. Twisting my posts to let them look opposite does not work either, anyone can see this. Admitting that takes a true soul to do so, I guess you, others and Kiki are not one.

  24. @snakejesse

    You foolish arrogant snake,in africa you can get your pictures in many ways not only from cameras.You rubbish dirty mouth full of pride,what where you going to look for in Africa then if you think europe has everything then?shuu you snake you will never see God because of your arrogance and pride!

    1. Kiki & Jesse. You two are like children slinging sewerage at each other! This is distastefull, why do you not do it in private on email in stead of here. You have long ago stated your views regarding Osaghae’s supposed torture. Whoever is a snake or a bucket of sewer is of no importance to the rest following this issue of Osaghae.

      1. johan is this site yours?people who blaspheme against man of God like you and jesse,need to be corrected,the demons in you must be chased away and we are telling you the truth so as you may go for delivrance

        1. @Kiki- you now stand in judgment? Have you pushed God off His throne and taken up that Divine Seat, considering yourself more elevated than God???

  25. jesse in your tbjoshuawatch site you said enough is enough you are going to call all authorities to arrest tb joshua?have you not finished to call then?you arrogant foolish person,your demons are lying to you!

    1. johan what are talking about i pushed God to his throne,have you started to be deluded like jesse?why dont you ask the anti-tbjoshua if they stand on the judgement to jugde tb joshua then

  26. @johan van..
    i am a francophone speaker but we are no here to look for who is in command of the english language.This one of the tricks tb joshua haters use to bring the discussion to loose its focus

  27. @johan van
    I am a francophone speaker and we are not here to look for who is in command of the english language.This is one of the tricks tbjoshua haters use to bring the discussion to loose its focus

  28. @ Kiki, quand allez-vous dire la vérité? Quand allez-vous voir la vérité? Pensez-vous que Dieu ne voit pas gambader autour de vous ici et vous faire ressembler à une personne stupide?

  29. Huh? I did miss so much. Jesse, so much arguement. pls be humble and Point out one, just one evidence that this Mr Nosa’s case really happened.

  30. jesse tu as un facon drole de faire rire les gens. c’est bon on fait la paix de tout facon on ne pourra jamais nous entendre sur quoi ce soit.

  31. @ Johan van Rooyen, seems you have lost sight of your good attitude, conducts and love. Where is the love? Using such disgusting words that even pagans dn’t use. Where is your proof to christianity? Does your comments portray God’s character?

    Johan van Rooyen,
    “You do not
    know who I am, yet
    you utter the words
    liar, hater, twister,
    destroyer and the likes.
    You are the
    blasphemer, not Jesse
    and I! You have blown
    this whole issue out of
    context with your one
    track *half dead brain
    that seeps sewerage*! I
    am closer to TBJ than
    you will ever be in
    your low level life,
    irrespective of how
    loud you shout over
    your “Frankophone”
    talks! If there is any
    snake and deceiver in
    this discussion, it is
    you! Now go slither
    into your stolen
    burrow and keep quiet
    untill you know what
    you are talking about
    you idiot.”

    using half dead brain
    that seeps sewerage? Idiots? C’mon thats actually not words of christians. It only shows how deep in darkness you are.

    Come into the light.

  32. @johan
    snake blasphemer shit rubbish and toilet smelling,talk for your self ,dont include jesse,you son and daughter of lucifer,you retarded,!you are closer to tb joshua or you are betrayer,you shit,shut your mouth full of poisons,go wash your dirty mouth you are smelling shits!

  33. @shit johan, who told you he/she needs to know your name?noone wish to know a demon like you!go in hell to give your name there because your name is already in the book of hell!you shit,i dont know what you are doing here,noone cares abiut your rubbish shit name!you are closer to tb joshua?if you want to make us laugh,dont worry we dont need jokes from demons!

  34. @johan, lies and accusation again. who told you am not using my real name? And who told you i was sacred. For i stand for the truth with boldness. Am jj fortune. So where is the lie there? Huh? Pls if you only know how to accuse people just as you are accusing t.b.joshua try some other site..

  35. @kiki, pls dnt allow hatred consume you. I know what this people vomit out of their mouth is totally unbearable but thats their aim to get u angry so as you loose your place in the lord and be like them.

    they can insult us but not us. Pls calm down. Dnt allow evil reign in your heart through anger.

      1. @kiki- the only way you will get into heaven is like a burglar, by breaking in! You should know your adversaries and make less of a fool by yourself. You should make effort to send your people back home from South Africa, the people there do not like them and want them to be deported, same like you where you are. Go eat your ebba, soup and pomo at home, that is what you deserve! You have a foul mouth spirit in you, go for deliverance like the disciples!!!

      2. @johan
        do you know what is the meaning of south africa?tell me what do understand by Africa?if you knew the meaning, you would be the first to carry your bags and go where you belong.Us we are not guided by racism and hatred that is why we gave you hospitality when you and your people where homeless,so be gratiful!

  36. @johan
    hahaha you are totally wrong,i dont ven know how drugs look and never cross anything like that or robbery,i am clean as a baby but i prefer to be a cleaner monkey cage than to be an old gangster and a drug dealer may be,dont try to run when you got caught,you are already known.A nd all your comments look as someone who is unhappy about scoan because they haven’t allow you to meet TB joshua face to face,if you have evil plans against him,i advise you dont even try,the God of TB joshua will consume you by holy ghost fire!

    1. @johan
      is scoan your adversary then?will you get in heaven because of your foul mouth full of pride and arrogance?Suprisingly,the Man you are dying to meet face to face is actually the same like those you dont like and wish to be deported from their own country South Africa.
      Your arrogance and pride have gone too far to the extend you no longer know to make difference between guests and hosts.
      Now in your foolish blind mind,the hosts had become the guests and the guests became the hosts in south africa!
      Thank God for the life of those people you dont like,if it was not their prayers ,God could have brought already judgement to your foul mouth full of arrogance and pride! go yourself eat ebba,soup and pomo at home ,i m sure you love it ,if not you wouldn’t singing it!

  37. @jamie
    You are right too to leave your people to choose their own belief as you chose not to believe TB Joshua as a man of God. hope you will give them peace then.

    Sure all people are under full protection of God but will you stop to protect your children against a sudden fire in a house because you believe they are under full protection of God and leave them in the house to face the fire?please stop your childish thought,God works in spirit by prayers.
    The armed gard are there to prevent people with evil mission to enter in the premises of the church and harm the children of God.
    You got caught up by your own fabricated stories,it is better for you to surrender and continue with your own journey and leave TB Joshua alone.
    He never blame anyone or finds faults in others instead he is guided everyday by love to bring delivrance of God’s people who are tormented by the devil.
    The ridiculous people are those who give themselfs a position to judge him but T B Joshua never fear anyone or believe anyone can destroy him because he is under protection of the Most High God who reigns forever and ever.Amen

  38. @jamie
    hahaha,keep joking,i know you are not happy to see him under protection of The Most High and you are not able to destroy him.
    Yeah that is it,noone can never touch him as God said,Touch not my anointed one or do my prophets no harm.That is a command from God that is why you will never be able to harm him!So feel sorry for yourself!
    Are you sure you warned him?or it is God who warned?if you warned him why then he keeps growing glory to glory?
    I thought your warnings will prevent him to keep your people in his church then!
    You are murdering yourself by fighting against God’s anointed!You are the warned people!

  39. @jamie
    I understand you are not feeling good to see TB Joshua in the protection of God but take it easy,there is nothing you can do about it,i m very sorry!
    And read very well,i said before, we are all under full protection of God’s favour so where is your problem?If God is your full protection,you should’nt worry about TB Joshua.So have faith in God ,leave the battle to God and stop your fightings against TB Joshua!

  40. @jamie
    I understand you are not feeling good to see TB Joshua in the protection of God but take it easy,there is nothing you can do about it,i m very sorry!
    And read very well,i said before, we are all under full protection of God.
    So where is your problem?If God is your full protection,you shouldn’t worry about TB Joshua.So have faith in God ,leave the battle to God and stop your fightings against TB Joshua!

  41. @jamie
    that is your claim not mine!You are the one who see TB Joshua as an evil-doer but you are deceiving yourself and you know it.You shouldn’t blame TB Joshua for your loved one,he did not come to your place to take them by force to his church,they come by their one.So stop all your ridiculous fight against him,you can do nothing against it ,nor tbjoshuawatch site!amen!

  42. @ Kiki,

    What a rediculous comparison about protection and then take fire as an example to justify yourself.

    I loved the comparison of what Jamie said. Well done, “when his visions are at fault, he believes others come to destroy the ministry and uses people like Kiki to go all berserker about what are facts and the truth held in front of SCOAN”

    There is only Salvation through Jesus Christ, there will never be a church that can do such things by themselves. This constant twisting of truth makes you wonder, how far have they have gone in their own life to betray Jesus personally to keep up these lies.

    Any movie you see about Jesus, you watch that He is Baptized, does Holy Communion, Teaches repentance of sins, does not focus on extensive deliverance, does not make the deliveree look stupid, does not interrogate demons for a half an hour, does not make it to a freak show, does not ask people to hold them down, and so forth. Also he does not revile and does not ask his disciples to call truthsayers names or write outrageous stories about people they think they know them.

    While the entire Internet is writing about that latest football match between Spain and Nigeria, they go tell on their website, he never said it. Imagine the blatantly denial. When they themselves suck something out of their thumb and are called accountable for it, they go up on high legs it is not true, but when truth is spoken, they do everything in their ability to twist the story that is said.

    Which proves again and again about their lying, evil, satanic, sinister, selfishness, nastiness and rubbish they keep producing without shame or any morals whatsoever.

  43. @ Kiki,

    Don’t you see, we write all the time here. So stop being belligerent and live in denial and say nothing will happen. What’s wrong with you. Things take time to seep in and it will. If it was not, you would not go all nuts and crazy about it.

  44. @ Kiki,

    Kiki is and stays a foul mouth and has nothing on offer then being a petty pion in the imaginary games that Kiki thinks is going on.

    I would agree with Johan that Kiki needs deliverance but not from TB Joshua, but from a real deliverance minister that does not make Kiki to a freak show on TV but teach Kiki to be courteous, civil and stride with dignity. All that is lacking, which means NO CHARACTER.

    Again Proverbs 15:4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

    It is simple to show here for everyone to see, including all SCOAN followers that this Scripture is applicable totally and completely to Kiki.

    So therefore Kiki cannot be taken serious at all what Kiki says. Kiki is just a super induced inflated with hot air personality that writes a lot, but is saying absolutely nothing. Huffs and puffs and goes round and round in circles, tells things about people that makes no sense while Kiki knows none of us personally.

    We know TB Joshua, we have met him, we spoke to him, we know what he does, we know his family, we know the disciples and what they say and what they do, sleep, eat, drink, what phones they use, what laptops they handle, what mic they had in their hands and what they have said through it, which were lies, opposite stories of their own lives that have been observed by many. Also they were possessed and claimed outrageous stories and complete garbage and foolishness. These facts have been written down here and Kiki is the only one here that denies them.

    So anyone who reads this of me, take your pick and chose who is speaking the truth.

  45. @ all,

    Further this site is mixing up all the posts, all by it selves. It does this at random, so don’t blame me for the facts that this site is doing so. It’s very likely that this is done by the moderator of this site.

    I urge people to read all the posts that I have written in the former blogs and see that I have stayed co-herent, concise, sincere and direct to the point, with proofs as well facts.

  46. Lord Jesus Christ will not stop fighting for his people because there are so dear to him. His victory is always certain. He cannot afford to loose them Viva Lord Jesus Christ. Your authority and power cannot be conqured. Emmanuel-GOD with us

  47. @ Osewa,

    How many times do I have to tell you, IT’S NOT MY SITE !

    When will you understand my posts and not keep twisting again and misrepresent me.

    I had a dream, just like everyone has and no it was not the one from Martin Luther King.

    I think you are beginning to become obsessed with it all.

    Have you read …..
    1 Corinthians 14:29-32
    Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

    32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

    You laugh about me teaching Harry, but I am teaching you all the time too. It is clear that you don’t know.

  48. @ Doi,

    ‘High interlects’ or is it high intellect, or intellectual ?

    When you can write the word “intellect”, then come back.

    Hilarious.

    In other words people have to just come around to your way of thinking and believe everything that you say because you have to be right. Even the person you are referring to. How many posts have I not written which went through personally at SCOAN then you still go in denial. As if I was lying ? If I did not go through that, why am I not in SCOAN 24/7 ? I left because I was not send away or pushed out of the church. I left because absolutely nothing happened while there. There is more happening now in our lives then we were with SCOAN. Glad I left, because I would not want to look back upon my life and find out I have nothing to back upon to.

    Sorry to say you are wrong and indeed your own ‘evidence’ lacks credibility, truth and validity and intrinsic substance.

    Also the majority of the users on this site require some form of help and advice, I fail to establish what your or Kiki’s contribution has made.

    So far I have seen cleverly woven webs of deceit, total denial, frantic clambering to rebuttal of things that truly happened.

    Let me repeat, people have died needlessly, people have been hurt, people have been disappointed, this not now a few, the numbers will be more and more and the evidence that you don’t see more people writing their own testimonies, all they do is defending the man in question TB Joshua who uses third parties money given by others to progress himself. Proof after proof of reality and facts that a 5 year old can distinguish with eyes closed and would chose not to be involved of the cheating and deception that takes place. The problem for you guys you willingly don’t want to admit it, because of gain, position and embrace the lies you tell. You really think God does not see it as well condone it. Maybe for now for a time, but at some point in time it will come out and all of you will be scrambling.

  49. @snake jesse
    oohh,you can then teach wiseman harry?are you sure.you had a dream then teaching him,you admited it?then why dont you admit too what you said when i asked you if you have a calling to prophesy and you answered me” it is already happened,if all claim tb joshua can prophesy,you can do it too”Are you sure you did not say it you snake false prophet jesse
    Shuuu you snake, stop blaspheming,you will never teach wise man harry,stop you deluded snake,shu go pour out your poisons to your rubbish site full of snakes like you!shu shu false prophet of the end times!!!!shu shu wiseman harry will deliver you dont worry,shu your snakes are coming out your mouth,go and split all your poisons in your tbjoshuawatch rubbish site

  50. @snake prophet
    oh you admitted too you prophesy?ok when,your prophesy will become true,tell us more false prophet,you havent finished with it.
    Ash ,you are disgusting with your delutional hallucinations,they are snakes in you talking and show that fake vision!

  51. @snake jesse
    the river of egypt represent your stomach where all your snakes grow to come and fight the kingdom of God,but you will never succeed,you false prophet of the end times!

  52. oh yes Jesse, its not your site but you are a part of the running committee.an administrator. tell you fathers and mothers to post the marks on Nosa’s body as evidence to what was posted. and stop deceiving people.

  53. @snakejesse
    who is Osawa?hahaha i am not even a nigerian,i dont even live in africa but i love nigeria and our prophet.but as you are a joke,your deluded and retarded brain does nothing than hallucinating to make people laugh.

  54. @ Kiki,

    Prove it, show me your prowess of remote deliverance. Don’t keep insulting.

    You have lost your credibility already WTBJ, by not posting my evidence that the allegations about me are false concerning my wife being a liar of married many times. Just the fact that TB Joshua could not glean anything out of us by not spying in our suitcases and handbags.

    He prophesies all the time, but about how many visitors does he pick out. I know personally a prophet, Ashley McGuicken, who could walk up to anyone a whole line and tell what God did in the past, present and the future, so can Grenville Barber, so can John Paul Jackson. Reading people means nothing, nor does it prove you are out of God.

  55. @ Kiki,

    Nope I am not involved in any way or form in TB Joshua watch, then just a self sustained independent writer there.

    They ask so many times if I would be in contact with them, but I have not done that. At the moment I don’t trust anyone who is connected or was connected with SCOAN. There is no other choice for me than in the form as it is.

    I have told many things and many can verify of what I said is true. I don’t live the life of lies, because I would not be here to testify this. Concerning SCOAN I have nothing to hide anymore. Once was involved, but never again. Everyone I speak to who was involved in SCOAN and have now seen it from a distance agrees with it. Only you Kiki, that behaves like a annoying fly around my head, in the hope you can fob me off, bring me off track or just insult me for nothing. You are just plain a heckler, which is just a small little radio transmitter to divert me off my course. Read this here, it has not worked, nor will it work. I said I wanted to scale down because of other engagements and important things. I was asked not to do this. So then, it is up to me what I do. I know that what I say has impact, otherwise you would not be here to taunt me all the time trying on top of your strength to provoke me. Believe me I have dealt with people like who are 20 times worse than you are all combined. So, shrug.

  56. @ Kiki,

    Nope I am not involved in any way or form in TB Joshua watch, then just a self sustained independent writer there.

    They ask so many times if I would be in contact with them, but I have not done that. At the moment I don’t trust anyone who is connected or was connected with SCOAN. There is no other choice for me than in the form as it is.

    I have told many things and many can verify of what I said is true. I don’t live the life of lies, because I would not be here to testify this. Concerning SCOAN I have nothing to hide anymore. Once was involved, but never again. Everyone I speak to who was involved in SCOAN and have now seen it from a distance agrees with it. Only you Kiki, that behaves like a annoying fly around my head, in the hope you can fob me off, bring me off track or just insult me for nothing. You are just plain a heckler, which is just a small little radio transmitter to divert me off my course. Read this here, it has not worked, nor will it work. I said I wanted to scale down because of other engagements and important things. I was asked not to do this. So then, it is up to me what I do. I know that what I say has impact, otherwise you would not be here to taunt me all the time trying on top of your strength to provoke me. Believe me I have dealt with people like who are 20 times worse than you are all combined. So, shrug. Keep on buzzing, man.

  57. @ Doi,

    Oh and it has to be in a rude, unprofessional way ?

    Sure I paid for that bench with the thousands of dollars that I gave, so just hold your vicious useless accusations.

    Nothing is from anyone, if it was not from the people who gave and use extortionate tithes that are not biblical TB Joshua and followers would have thrown their bibles and still living in a shed.

  58. @ Pango,

    If there is anyone that writes the most Scripture and basing my life on it will be me. Go down the line in other posts Pango and see the extensive use of scripture by me to undergird my points and arguments. So your insinuation falls to the ground and have nothing in me.

  59. @snakejesse

    which visitor?a visitor or a betrayer?
    You even admitted you tried to approach wiseman harry to talk with him in greek,but thank God your plans has failed,that is why you paid all that money to try every means to get something from wiseman harry you will post against after.

    shuuu you snake betrayers,shuu are you obsessed with wiseman harry,what do you want from him?shuuu you snake your plans will never succeed!
    go and talk with your fellow snakes in your tbjoshua watch rubish site

  60. wow!!! i really do not understand what is actually going on here. i thought the admin said we should be concise and civil why now do we diss and rain abuses on each other like the fire hails of old. i really think we should go with those who drew our attention to the fact that the wounded photo’s of mr osaghae should be uploaded for an expository lucid understanding of the post on tbjoshua watch because to me the post makes no sense and it is absolutely mundane and baseless.

    why on earth do we think that when a girl is raped and molested, it is in the advice of the police, that she report immediately to the station with the blood still rolling down her body????? in the same vein, we at watch t.b joshua await the evidence to prove what mr osaghae is saying and afterwards we know what next to do. i know i am definitely speaking the mind of many readers. if you are in support of the wounded pix upload say AYE!!!!!!!!!!

  61. @ene
    if anyone try to ask the wounded pix in tbjw,they will ignore you completely or delete your comments.
    Jesse as an important commentor in TBJW,he should ask this as a proof of their article since he supports them in everything.

  62. @ Ene,

    Do you really think that they would have made a picture of him ? Is a camera a common thing in Nigeria. And him going to the Nigeria constabulary and tell them oh, the security of TB Joshua’s church have beaten me up ?

    Go on try it in America or in a European country they will go. So lets wait for some to come forward, because I was witness of one person who went berserker and shouting on the top of their voice to one of the SCOAN workers. So if you want me to trace them, I sure want to testify about these atrocities and by all means possible. So go ahead, you want a piece of me you can have it. I will deal with liars and schemers if you think I am bluffing, then think again.

  63. @snake jesse
    If it was just buzzing,you would’nt be here,but it is seen very well that you are very disturbed.You dont want the truth about you to be known as you are trying to cover yourself as an innocent towards insults.

  64. @snaken jesse
    Dont try to cover your self as an innocent,you have been the first to insult me about snakes in your rubbish tbjoshuawatch site as well other insults.like hairy tail

  65. Jesse will never say anything on the proof that Mr Nosa was truely beaten. why shying away from this necessary and legal proof? go tell your tbjoshuawatchers(since they’ll certainly post all your comments) to post a photograph of Nosa’s wounded body. thats one great proof of the artocle and not a passport photograph.
    we await their response on that!

  66. @snakejesse
    what is going on,why is it not easy to post comments,have you used your witchcraft so as you may comment yourself only?

  67. @jesse

    jesse one again we need a proof of the article.You cant just accuse people like this and go without giving answers everyone is asking.
    People like you who spend their time seeking to destroy other people’s life , dont deserve to be called christians.
    You are a disgrace to the christianity!

  68. @ Kiki,

    These posts are not posted, because it will wreck this posts and proves that the prophecy he spoke over my wife’s life was a lie.,

    She has never married, nor have I. She has one birth certificate that her father gave to her. I did not even have a birth certificate which I had to ask for in the Townhall of another country and had to pay for. These all had to be applied with a Apostille stamp of authenticity if you want to marry. And before you get one they have to go into the records if you were married before. If you were it will show and will inform you straightaway.

    So that prophecy was a lie and caused embarrassment in front of the entire church in Lagos. Immediately the SCOAN team wanted this to verify this and my wife was furious and crying that it was not true.

    Her entire family has told me she was never married, her friends told me she was never married and I believe her when she said so. So this nasty piece of work Martin Ncube wanted to drive a wedge into my marriage by saying that my wife was a liar and TB Joshua was correct,

    He is not, because even a cousin of hers who is a high ranking police commander assured me she was never married.

    This proves again that you are all a bunch of nasty schemers and liars and have no moral conduct whatsoever concerning my testimony here. Again I prove about the falsehood of these articles of the deluded mindset some of you have. How can you sleep and defend yourself when I tell you this ? How can you even have a consciousness in this consistent lying and upholding these ways and towards God. I don’t believe anyone follows God here otherwise you would admit you are wrong.

  69. @jesse
    someone who based his life on scriptures,does not leave like you do.
    Someone who lives according to the scriptures ,he lives to love others not to destroy them.

  70. @ @

    People who call themselves Christians are usual general Christians.

    People who follow Jesus Christ are the ones that count.

  71. @ Kiki,

    Keep your appearances up with saying the opposite, it won’t work. Anyone can see I am telling the truth and that you do your utmost best to twist my post and try to let it look untrue.

    You have no respect for God and His rules concerning His commandments of what you do here. You frankly don’t give fig of evidence that I have produced and that you have no respect for nothing than your false evil promotion of your leader Prophet TB Joshua.

    You don’t care about the fact that leaders who were in SCOAN for over 10 years go out in the world and so to speak cast out demons with bottles of water that has nothing in it.

    How can you cast out demons if you yourself are full of demons of death, lust, pornography, darkness, Indian man, big man, queen of the ocean, fear, sickness.

    All it proves what a liars they are and demanded respect and obedience from them ?

    I have never seen such persistent liars in my life. Those that claim everything, but on their own the are nobody. Where is their own anointing ? How much lives are they going to wreck with their falsehood and deception ?

  72. @ Kiki,

    I forgot to add, that if she and I were married before to you have to produce a certificate of divorce from your former partner.

    There is none existing in both our lives. How can you uphold these errors concerning the truth I have produced here. Why would I go on and on about it ?

    All it proves that the prophecy was not true. Now admit it that he was wrong and get real start to tell me that there are more of those testimonies of truth of TB Joshua totally missed it. And he was saying that over more people. If it was wrong over our marriage it is clear that it is wrong for them too.

    Anyone can jump up and down and defend him, but I know it was NOT true. The same for any healing or deliverance. None took place than a imaginary one. Why do I keep it up. If you don’t believe me, take me to court and I will testify the same for a Judge as well a jury. So go ahead, do it ! I dare you to challenge me for it. I stand for truth and no imaginary conspiracy of bringing a ministry down. Stop the lying here and stop your falsehood. You cannot hide from God. Nor for His Judgment. My consciousness is clear. You have nothing on me. Nothing.

  73. @jesse is that how low you think of nigeria?…..let me help in widening your scope while you learn from me….. if you say it is not common to find people wit personal camera, i will understand but it is in your low thinking and low mind you forgot to remember that there are lots of photo studio all over. you also failed to remember that mr osaghae could have used his cell phone to snap himself if he really wanted to show the world that he was really beaten.or was he using a nokia 3310? In this jet age ? I doubt. you all forgot these means of getting his wounded pix because your minds are so filled with evil, lies and hatred. One thing you dont know. you, trying to falsely exposing Gods people you are equally exposing yourselves and opening your back side for the whole world to see.hahahaha!!. Come to think of it, if mr osaghae was brutally injured like he claimed, he should have taught of getting himself snapped before the scars cover up for evidence sake. This is just an eye opener for every one to see that jesse, mr osaghae and all tbjoshua watch fans are far from saying the truth.

  74. @jesse

    Nosa can still be able to post his fotos of the scars of his wounds.
    And how didi he maage to contact tbjoshuawatch site but he did not manage to contact any media news papers,radio or television even police?Do you think people are so stupid to believe anything?

  75. ene. In the 2 world-war, Miljons of Germans who where involved in the most un-humanly propaganda, mass-hysterica,indoctrination and blind qrual actions against others, said after their Tiran Hitler was finally defeated; they said; “we did not know, we did not know what was happening behind the scenes”. They justified their involvements by saying; “we did not know, we loved our leader so much, who promised our freedom”. Tiranny can look like a charming Man Of God. People eat every food when times are row and some-one has a strong hopefull message. They are willing to look the other site, when what is happening is not accoording to their idealistic dreams and visions. See, the Truth of Christ is no idealistic imagenated “better-world-vision”. Thruth is the Only Reality. The narrow path, and a vew will find it. amen

  76. jesse your idol worshiper is arrogance and pride.you recently declared:
    “i jesse am a pstor and the earth at large is my oyster and it is laid out at my feet”what is this claim then?are you God then,ot it is the idol lucifer who was talkig inside you since lucifer is the father of arrogance and pride

  77. jamie how can you compare your european tyran hitler to the humble prophet tb joshua?you people you are so blind and you dont anymore know to distinguish between evil and good.How can you put darkness together with light?stay in your darkeness tbjoshuawatch rubbish site,we dont need your nosense comments,take this snake jesse with you

  78. snakejesse has always think africa is low and europe is high because of his arrogance and pride but God Almight has show them the opposite that is why they are fighting because of jealousy,they cant stand to see their people leaving their pharisee chuches to work for living chuch in africa

  79. snakejesse have you used your kundalina power to stop my answers to your foolish comments,you are lucky,but i will find another way to expose you,hold on!

  80. jesse,noone see you talking the trurh,only those who have the same plan with you of destruction.All your demons in you have come out to expose all your fabricated lies,what do you have to say then when you got caught fabricating such a lie with no proof at all,were you the police when Nosa run to you then?shuuu you snake you have been exposed there is nothing left for you than talking nosense and childish thought,shhuuu snake full of pride and arrogance

  81. jesse,it have worked because now you are crying out”look i was married once oh my wife oooo,who told you we want to know about your mariage?shuu snake i have exposed you keep your lies nothing will work for you.How are you visions then?when is wiseman harry comme out of scoan to be your disciple?why dont you continue your hallucination then?hahaha you are such joke?how can you tech wiseman harry when you dont know even to tell the truth by hiding behind a rubbish site to destroy other ministries?shuu snake false prophet of the end of times!

  82. jesse
    do you have a respect for God then?hahaha jokes,how can you have respect for God and compare your self to God?shuu youv snake you have only respect for yor father lucifer

  83. @jesse
    interlect or intellect is not the issue we are discussing here,but i know your arrogance and pride can not hide whenever you try to hide who you are

  84. @jesse
    where are Nosa’s fotos of his scars then?why you dont want to answer this questions?bring them if your story is true then

  85. jesse,o you mean anyone can start beating people the way he wants because there is no camera to take the pictures of proof ?do you mean in nigearia there is no court to deal with such crimes?you are disgusting you foolish people,is only UK who have courts for such crimes and no in nigeria?shuu you arrogant you fabricated lie put you to shame

  86. @ Kiki- It is quite evident that you are not in command of the English language being the reason you twist the stated facts around. I never said push God to His throne, I intimated that you believe you have replaced God on His throne from where you now believe you can judge other people. Your character seems to be seeping through like a child with a filthy diaper that has not been cleaned.
    Stop showing your lack of vocabulary by name calling other people and insulting them. Remove the log from your eye so you can see well to remove the splinter from your brother’s eye!

  87. johan
    i prefer to lack of vocabulary than to be an instrument of the devil by hating and fabricating lies against a Man of GOD!

  88. @johan
    have you removed then your log from your eyes before removing tbjoshua the splinter from tb joshua’s eyes ?

  89. johan
    i am a francophone speaker but we are not here to look for who is in command of the english language.this is your problem and jesse’s,but dont think your tricks will work,arrogance is a common character we find in tb joshua haters

  90. johan
    tell me then have you replace God on his throne to judge tb joshua?shuuu you snake,i will deal with all snakes who put them selfs in position than others thinking they have right to judge but others do not.

  91. @ Kiki,

    You twister everyone can see you are turning around the stated facts as what Johan says, now there are two that are pointing out your serial lying, when will you confess that you are brainwashed and have the guts to tell the truth. Time for your medication, I suppose. Just give it up. Or has TB Joshua hired you to keep telling your foolishness here. It really does not work. Keep trying ok. Next time tell the truth, stop twisting what people say, it is too obvious.

  92. @ Kiki, quand allez-vous dire la vérité? Quand allez-vous voir la vérité? Pensez-vous que Dieu ne voit pas gambader autour de vous ici et vous faire ressembler à une personne stupide?

  93. jesse tu as un facon drole de faire rire les gens,c’est bon on fait la paix de tote facon on ne pourra jamais nou entendre sur quoi ce soit

  94. jesse tu as une facon drole de faire rire les gens,c’est bon on fait la paix de toute facon on ne pourra jamais nous entendre sur quoique ca soit

  95. jesse ,et puis tu sais tres bien que je ne mens pas,tu sais que tout ce que j’ai ecrit sur toi,tu l’as belle et bien dit mais je crois qu’on devrais oublier tout.
    Je te souhaite bonne chance en tout.

  96. jesse i dont twist anything,anyone can verify in tbjoshuawatch site if what i said about you,was not true.Everything i said,you are the one who claim it in tbjosuawatch site.But johan to be against me,it is not a suprise,She/he is too an anti tbjoshua so to take side of the ones who have the same purpose to destroy tb joshua,everyone will understand it.
    Instead you and all tb joshua haters,every sunday you have to watch emmanuel tv to look for something tbjoshua will say and you bring it and twist it to say the opposite and everyone knows that.

  97. jesse i dont need any medication,i told you before you are the one who need medication because you are deluded by hatred and arrogance

  98. @Kiki- You do not know who I am, yet you utter the words liar, hater, twister, destroyer and the likes. You are the blasphemer, not Jesse and I! You have blown this whole issue out of context with your one track half dead brain that seeps sewerage! I am closer to TBJ than you will ever be in your low level life, irrespective of how loud you shout over your “Frankophone” talks! If there is any snake and deceiver in this discussion, it is you! Now go slither into your stolen burrow and keep quiet untill you know what you are talking about you idiot!

  99. Kiki, vous savez et tout le monde sait que vous êtes un menteur. Avouez que vous êtes un menteur et repens-toi. Vous devez présenter des excuses au sujet des choses désagréables que vous avez dit à propos, alors je vais pardonner et oublier.

  100. @JJF- Why do you not put your name on your posts? Are you scared somebody knows you? You critisize but do not show your name? I have love, I do not call myself a christian because people like you call themselves christian. I am a child of God and will speak my mind and show who I am mister hide your name.
    I am not embarrassed for who I am!

  101. shit johan i aswered you up,go and enjoy,you disgusting smelly !your shits are coming out of your smelly mouth,you will never be close to tbjoshua coz the demons inside you will be consumed by holy ghost fire,shuu you snake go to the pit of hell to find your brother demons like you!ashhh you are disgusting with your smelly shits in your mouth

  102. shit johan.i dont need to know who you are,only your fightingb against the kingdom of God shows who you are,stop decieving your self you devil son or daughter of lucifer,shuu you snake blasphermer,who do you think you are?you are closer to tb joshua?hahaha,how come you make your shit lies to ask tb joshua to come south africa,if you were closer to him,why dont you ask him your self then,arrr you are disgusting with your snakes of decieving and fabricating lies,shuu go in hell to see your brothres demons

  103. shit johan
    which low level life?can you tell us your high level life then?hahaha i am not suprised you are a daughter/son of arrogant lucifer but soon you will know my level and yours will be in hell.

  104. @shit johan i can fly whenever i want to africa,it is not an issue for me at all,but you seem to be concerned alot about level of life or level of english language,i think you have a low self esteem ,if you are content of who you are,what is your problem then?leave ctb joshua alone,leave nigeria alone and stay in your high level of live then.Who is after who then if you have a high level of life?it seems your high level of life does not bring you happiness!
    You dont have any high level of life ,you have only demons of arrogance and hatred and nothingv else,so go to the pit opf hell where you belong!

  105. @jesse dit moi ce que j’ai menti donc?si tu ne veux pas faire la paix,c’est ton choix,mais je te conseille d’arreter tes combats contre tbjoshua,tu es entre de commettre une grave erreur que tu regretteras un jour

  106. shit johan we are embarassed for who you are,you are a demon hiding behind a rubbish name,but your own name is demon lucifer!

  107. @shit johan
    who is scared of a rubbish demon like you!shuuu snake stop shitting your fabricated lies,you are nothing here and noone is scared of your demons snakes inside you big stomach,you are nobody here but a smelly big mouth shitting lies only!

  108. @shit johan
    i wish the police you talked about in your lies could have have existed really and beat your shit mouth so as you may learn to respect the Man of God and learn to speak the truth.But it will be to hard for you to be honest because all demons from hell have taken controy of your retarded deluded mind!shuu you smelly dirty mouth go hide in toilet where you belong!

  109. @JJF- Are you also a low class Fortuin that has upgraded to a play white Fortune, fool! I am blocking you too!

  110. @shit johan
    an idiot is someone who admit he is closer to tb joshua and the other side he is fighting him.you are totally an idiot and you have never been closer to tb joshua,you blasphemer liar son and daughter of lucifer.
    But instead it seems your entire brain is dead and its the demons inside you running your dead body now!

  111. Your continuous chattering like a monkey is irritating. I will be in Lagos, also at Scoan soon, why do you not come and beat me yourself, then I can see who you are! I would like to close your foul mouth.

  112. Johan
    when you started laughing at people you thought are in low level of life,i thought
    oh this foolish johan might be a VIP,guesse what i was suprised to find you are an old man and gangester addicted to rubbish evil cars of 80’s.
    In scoan they take care of elderly people,you are wise to go there coz your life is pity as an old gangster,i will come and make sure you get delivered of all your demons if not i will deal with you big mouth old man gangster!

  113. @Kiki- Now I know! You are an import janitor and cleaner in the monkey cage at the local zoo! No wonder you keep on repeating “Shu-Shu, let me clean you pooo!” Go back to your country where you belong or are you making enough money as a gangster, drug lord and robber? I do not want to cloud my mind any further with your trash so I am blocking you!

  114. @johan
    you are totally wrong,i dont even know how drug look like or never cross any drug or robbery in my life,i am clean as a baby but i prefer to be a cleaner monkey than to be a gangster may be too a drug dealer,dont try to run,you are already known!
    And all your comments seem like someone who is against scoan because you are unhappy for they have been refusing you to meet TB joshua face to face,but i advise you if you have evil plans please dont even try,the God of TB Joshua will consume you by holy ghost fire!repent yourself before you get caught and be ashame on emmanuel tv.

  115. kiki, if we read to much of your way of talking, your endless attacs and accusements, then we all thank God, that we are no part of scoan. If you are a product of what scoan teached you, then I dont need to join your club. Thank you so much, amen

  116. @jamie
    noone is asking you to join scoan,we have had enough of betrayers now,thank you not to join scoan again and look for fabricating lies you may bring to attack and accuse the Man of God.Is it allowed for you to attack him and accuse him but not allowed yourselfs( tb joshua haters) to be accused then?
    I hope you can feel what it feels like when you started to bring all sorts of attacks and accusations to the Man of God.
    You should repent before it gets too late.God told you:”Dont touch not my Anointed ones.And do My prophets no harm.”when God speaks the wise listen!

  117. Truth jamie.these people are worshiping tbjoshua. Meeting tbjoshua face to face is important for them than to call upon the name of the lord. This man is deceiving you. Jesus loves you.

  118. Kiki, what Man of God do you mean? Its better to tell your master that he is the one that needs repentance, before it is too late for him. How will you defend the horrible things he did? He is not innocent. I attented scoan with great love and I am very happy that God showed me to stay away from this endless trouble-maker, called tb Joshua. thank you so much The Truth will set you free. amen

  119. @ Kiki,

    We are no betrayed, we tell the truth and God is our witness of your rambling and incoherent motor-mouthing with no content of real proof concerning us. You need to check TB Joshua and Wiseman concerning that. Plenty evidence, so get real and come to realities and righteousness. You have nothing on us. Nothing. When you have something the you have right to speak. But for now there is nothing. So stop weaving your net, because you have fallen in your own trap of error and conduct.

  120. @ Kiki,

    I will prove that TB Joshua is a liar.

    Many months TB Joshua told us he would stop predicting Football matches and that he “talked”, “spoke” to God about it.

    SO WHAT IS THIS THEN KIKI

    http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/headline/298183-t-b-joshua-predicts-spain-will-beat-nigeria-8-0.html

    This is after he told for the world to see and hear he would stop doing football matches.

    So here I prove to you that he is a liar. Will you now comply that I speak the truth and that he lies as I said all along. Repent of your foul mouth. And apologize to Johan and me Jesse.

  121. @jesse
    you and johan,you are the most people with foul mouth i have ever seen.
    I will never apologize to betrayers people like you!I
    Instead you should apologize to the Man of God before the judgement fall unto you!
    Is this article written by Scoan then?These people are liars as you are and your protected johan too
    I know you have time only to look for every means you can fabricate lies but it does not work.
    If you are not rambling with your foul mouth ,why dont you bring the real proof of Nosa’s beatings and stop your tricks to make us forget about your own trap you put yourself in.
    If you are enable to look after the ministry God gave you,go home and sleep!
    Apologize to johan and you?hahaha you are dreaming fake vision again as you did last time seeing you teaching wiseman Harry!why dont you apologize to me too for your arrogance!

  122. @jamie
    I mean the Man of God TB JOSHUA if you dont hear,it is not my fault.Wether you like it or not,HE IS THE MAN OF GOD.The Horrible thing we have ever known,is your rubbish site tbjoshuawatch and all his supporters.
    You attended scoan to bring out your loved ones but they did not want to follow you to your pharisee churches,they know there is no life there. So it is not TB JOSHUA’s fault.Stop blaming him!

  123. you are right Kiki, we all attend to scoan on own responsibility. Tb Joshua created his own war-camp, no-one did it too him. A God-man who preaches that we are under full protection of God, and at the same time needs a armed gard to protect him, then we have reason enough to use our own common sense, and not to take such a man too serious. You are right, its better to forget this whole silly journey, about a God-man who is caught-up in his own stories. When he is to blame, he blames others, when he makes faults, he finds faults in others, and when he is ridiculous wrong in his vision, he believes others come to destroy his ministery. A mouse in a tred-mill. Going no-where. amen.

  124. @jamie
    You are right too to leave your people to choose their own belief as you chose not to believe TB Joshua as a man of God. hope you will give them peace then.

    Sure all people are under full protection of God but will you stop to protect your children against a sudden fire in a house because you believe they are under full protection of God and leave them in the house to face the fire?please stop your childish thought,God works in spirit by prayers.
    The armed gard are there to prevent people with evil mission to enter in the premises of the church and harm the children of God.
    You got caught up by your own fabricated stories,it is better for you to surrender and continue with your own journey and leave TB Joshua alone.
    He never blame anyone or finds faults in others instead he is guided everyday by love to bring delivrance of God’s people who are tormented by the devil.
    The ridiculous people are those who give themselfs a position to judge him but T B Joshua never fear anyone or believe anyone can destroy him because he is under protection of the Most High God who reigns forever and ever.Amen

  125. Kiki, yes, tb Joshua seems to be under the protection of God, and even with dobble powers, he still needs his blaming-game, towards every-one who looks as a treat too him. You just have too wait until TB joshua burns his hands on fire, again. He is a warned man. And he is not innocent. He is a liar. And a murderer of souls. amen.

  126. I say goodbuy, too the dis-humanizing abuse, mis-use and perversion of The God-man TB Joshua, called and ordained by God for the sake of humanity. I say goodbuy too his egoism, his violence and his pityfull ministery, full of copies. It was a good lesson in discernement, to see what looks as the Truth and what Truth realy is. If Jezus stands on the gate of scoan tomorrow, they knock him down and will torture him again. “father forgive them, they dont no what they are doing”. Scoan is a seldsome level of corruption in the highest degree. May God bless you all. amen

  127. @jamie
    hahaha,keep joking,i know you are not happy to see him under protection of The Most High and you are not able to destroy him.
    Yeah that is it,noone can never touch him as God said,Touch not my anointed one or do my prophets no harm.That is a command from God that is why you will never be able to harm him!So feel sorry for yourself!
    Are you sure you warned him?or it is God who warned you?if you warned him why then is he keeping growing glory to glory?
    I thought your warnings will prevent him to keep your people in his church then!
    You are murdering your souls by fighting against God’s anointed one!
    You are the warned people!

  128. @jamie
    yeah jamie good bye to the fabricated lies,hatred,jealousy,envy,blaspheming.lying,accusing,condemning,against TB Joshua
    Bye bye to all betrayers and blasphemers with all their fabricated lies and abusations,violating and controlling poor people to give their name and their passport to fabricate lies,bye bye to corruption to make false accusations,false clip videos,false claiming,bye bye to violating and threatening the rights of scoan disciples,bye bye to watch emmanuel tv for looking for trap and a means to fabricate lies. bye bye to all kind of hatred,egoism,copying lies,racism,anger,arrogance,pride,evil plans and all sorts of kind.
    It was a bad lesson in following God’s word “do not harm my prophets!”
    Oh Lord Jesus forgive them,they dont know what they are doing,the way the old pharisee accused you and abused you,it is the same way they do to your prophets,forgive them too Lord Jesus.Amen
    SCOAN IS A CHOSEN CHURCH OF GOD TO BRING SALVATION,DELIVRANCE AND LIFE TO ALL NATIONS!AMEN
    I

  129. kiki, I am under full protection of Gods favour. Ask your master how he could go from glorie to glorie, over the back of others. Tell him he can have his kind of glories. I glorify God. Thank you so much Africa, for your real face. amen

  130. @jamie
    I understand you are not feeling good to see TB Joshua in the protection of God but take it easy,there is nothing you can do about it,i m very sorry!
    And read very well,i said before, we are all under full protection of God’s favour so where is your problem?If God is your full protection,you should’nt worry about TB Joshua.So have faith in God ,leave the battle to God and stop your fightings against TB Joshua!

  131. @kali
    thank you kali to tell johan he should’nt fight to see Tb joshua face to face.
    Really Johan should call upon the name of Jesus and stop fighting because they refused him to meet tb joshua face to face!

  132. kiki; I am sorry you want to see me as a evil-doer, but I am a woman of God and you can do nothing about it, nor TB Joshua. amen.

  133. @jamie
    that is your claim not mine!You are the one who TB Joshua as an evil-doer but you are decieving yourself and you know it.You shouldn’t blame TB Joshua for your loved one,he did not come to your place to bring them by force to his church,they come by their one.So stop all your ridiculous fight against against him,you can do nothing against it ,nor tbjoshuawatch site!amen!

  134. @jamie
    that is your claim not mine!You are the one who see TB Joshua as an evil-doer but you are deceiving yourself and you know it.You shouldn’t blame TB Joshua for your loved one,he did not come to your place to take them by force to his church,they come by their one.So stop all your ridiculous fight against him,you can do nothing against it ,nor tbjoshuawatch site!amen!

  135. @ Kiki,

    SCOAN is self promoting fake ministry that Satan is using to keep producing and reproducing his lies. Anyone can see it, be refuses to do so.

    Where will they go ? They are slowly being torn apart and then eventually discarded. Denial is the panacea for them rather living in oblivion and deception instead of admitting it was all wrong after all.

    II Thessalonions 2 Whole chapter, Lord Jesus, when will they discern and find out ?

  136. kiki, I can tell you a lot of stories about the Forcing methodes of TB joshua, but it is of no use to talk to people as you. They see what they want to see, and believe what they want to believe. I am very happy to leave this church, who did me so much harm. I learned what christianity looks like today. I love jezus and I dont need a church, a doctrine, and no false faritales of a troubled profhet. You can have him, and enjoy him, I bless you Kiki. We all deserve good treatment, and TB Joshua is not the slightest interesting for me. I am more interested in the effects of his doings, and I will not burn my hands again on this man. amen

  137. @jamie
    ok jamie bye bye,you have said bye bye last night but you keep coming.
    Thank you to leave him for me,sure i will enjoy him.I bless you too jamie
    Good journey and dont forget to take with you all the stories about forcing methodes of TB Joshua,we dont need them here,we are very happy to stay in this church and we believe what God says not what anti-tb joshua says!TB Joshua treats his followers very well that is why we are very interested in the God who raised him!Amen

  138. @jesse
    hahaha jesse my friend how are you?yesterday you were too hot thinking,oh i got them now.But what a deception!and you disappeared after.Welcome back then.
    Dont worry keep your research may be next time you will get us!

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