TB Joshua: The MAN who cannot be stopped

The General Overseer of the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN), T.B Joshua says no amount of defamatory or discouraging words can stop what God is set to do in the nation, Ghana. In his quest to find lasting answers to the numerous challenges that confront the body of Christ in this nation he embarked on a familiarity visit to the Ghana branch of the church situated at the Spintex road to ascertain the amount of work on the ground and to look for possible solutions to them. But this has not gone down well with some individuals within the media circles who have little or no knowledge at all about the man of God or are being used by some aggrieved men who are into Kingdom business and feel threatened at the visit of the man of God or have allowed themselves to be used by the devil to stop the move of God.

It is in the wake of this that I have taken the pain upon myself to paint a vivid picture of the situation on the ground and to advice those media men whose intention is to throw dust into the eyes of the public to tread cautiously because no mortal man challenges the almighty God to a fight and comes out victorious. Plus, , I want to point it out that no amount of defamatory statements can stop the hand of God over his people in this nation.
These media men who are bent on painting negative images of Prophet T B Joshua and his ministry trumpeted unfounded allegations that the presence of the Man of God and the Wise men created a serious vehicular traffic on the Spintex road as at Tuesday dawn, workers abandoned their posts to attend miracle sessions, the man of God was affiliated to a certain political party in the country, and then also supposedly guards of the man of God had detained Journalists who wanted to cover the programme.

If one cares to know, the presence of the Man of God was to address the challenges of the numerous Ghanaians who besieged the Headquarters of the Synagogue Church of all Nations in Lagos-Nigeria week in week out to meet him and not to ran a crusade. Hence not a second advert was placed on Emmanuel TV or any other social network.
I would again like to put it on point that the allegations of a huge vehicular traffic on the Spintex road was not as severe as reported but an act of heavy exaggeration because one could drive past the area in 10-15 minutes because of the presence of traffic controllers. The Man of God didn’t advertise his coming and could not have asked workers to absent themselves from work. His visit was to attend to those who were making frantic efforts to see him in Lagos-Nigeria and when people got wind of his coming they began to reach out to relations on phone and that contributed to the numbers that flooded the premises.

On his take on the allegations of political affiliation, Prophet T B Joshua refuted it saying the nature of his job does not permit him to be associated with any political set up both locally and internationally, and that he was for all.
The most diabolic of all the concocted stories on the internet is the one that says supposedly “Body Guards” of the Man of God had detained Journalists from NET 2 TV for taking footage of the gathering, an allegation purported to instigate the media against the man of God and his ministry. The two Journalist colleagues namely Seth Yeboah and Abdul Wahab Giwah who I attended the second day meeting together with made it clear to me that they had gone to cover the event but were met with a huge crowd at the entrance making accessibility impossible. At this point they consulted the church security men who ushered them into the church security post which saved them the trouble of hustling through the crowd. They had access to water and some energy drinks with the promise that their request to take visuals will be forwarded to the church authorities for approval.

Due to the huge human presence, it appeared the concentration of the security men was on crowd control and so each time the two journalists enquired about progress made on their request, one of the security men by name Vincent Aziza told them to give him time since he is yet to receive clarification from the authorities. According to the two journalists from NET 2 TV it was until 1pm when crew from Multi TV were also ushered into the security post to wait for the Green light before any filming could go on but they raised an alarm which suggested we were facing detention, which attracted the presence of the police.
The two journalists from NET 2 TV have however expressed shock and dissatisfaction with the publication that seemed to link them with the detention story and would like to correct that impression The two journalists have stated categorically that they were not kept against their will let alone being detained . They had the option to leave without taking coverage or stay and wait for the approval and they opted for the latter.

In an interview with Rev. Samuel Excellence a representative of the church in Ghana, he revealed that the man of God’s visit to Ghana was to bring relieve to the poor and less privileged Ghanaians who go through strenuous conditions to met him at the Head Quarters weekly. He said some sold their properties, vehicles or even borrowed money to travel to the Head Quarters which most often the man of God ended up refunding their moneys back to. This he said applied to people from Togo, Namibia, Cameroun, South Africa and the World over, so the presence of the man of God was not to create chaos, vehicular traffic, road blocks, exploit Ghanaians or step on the toes of any persons or cause supposedly body guards to manhandle journalist but to reach out to the vulnerable at their doorstep.
Rev. Samuel further indicated that the man of God does not use body guards because he wants to reach out to the unreachable and has always maintained that he is accessible but untouchable. He seized the opportunity to render an apology, on behalf of Prophet T B Joshua to all who might have been offended by his presence in Ghana. .
Before the commencement of the second day’s service one of the wise men by name Daniel addressed the issue of the media saying Emmanuel TV is a Media organization and so when they fight the media then they fight EMMANUEL TV and that SCOAN is a media friendly set up and that it is through the media that most of the negative impressions about the man of God has been corrected.
Prophet T B Joshua arrived later on Wednesday afternoon and addressed all the concerns that had been raised in the media, and also apologized to the media men for any inconveniences that they might have been through saying SCOAN is a media friendly setup and had no basis to stop the media from taking coverage of the event since he knows what he is doing is “light and not darkness”. If you are doing “wuluwulu things” that is when you think of keeping the media away, he said.

DANNY ARKORFUL.

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Former Administrator of The Ghana Pentecostal Council John Nana Antoh Speaks on TB Joshua

Culled from 2nd edition of Faith Cometh, Former administrator of the Ghana Pentecostal council, John Nana Antoh testifies of the mighty works the lord is using TB Joshua to do in our present dispensation.

Senior Pastor, Bible School founder and a former administrator of the Ghana Pentecostal Council, Rev. John Nana Antoh, shares with Faith Cometh how his spiritual life took a dramatic turn as a direct result of his encounter with someone who didn’t just preach the Bible, but made it work.

FC: Can you introduce yourself to us?

Rev. Antoh: My name is Reverend John Nana Antoh, am a professor of theology and director of a school called the Religious Academy in Ghana. I am also the senior pastor of a church called Berea Christian Center.

FC: When did you first come to know about the SCOAN?

Rev. Antoh: In 1997, I was the administrator of the Ghana Pentecostal Council. At that time, the man of God wanted to come to Ghana for a crusade and the Ghana Pentecostal Council were asked to host him. As of then, nobody knew him in Ghana. I had been a pastor for several years but I never heard the name T.B. Joshua. When he said he wanted to come to Ghana some Nigerian churches sent their pastors to Ghana to ask our council not to accept him because they said he was an occultist. So, at the beginning, we were very lackadaisical in accepting him.

Former Administrator of The Ghana Pentecostal Council John Nana Antoh

Also a few Nigerian ministers had come to swindle the council before; so we had a very negative impression about Nigerian ministers. Now his own countrymen were coming to tell us: “Don’t accept that man; he is an occultist”. The man of God sent another group to us, saying that he was ready to pay for four pastors from the council to come to the SCOAN, stay for any number of days to see for themselves. So, some senior pastors were chosen and stayed there for five days. When they came back to Ghana, they said: “Listen, this is from God; let us accept the man!” Some of us were arguing: “How can you use only four days to examine the man?” The council came together and had a vote and those who voted for the man of God to come to Ghana won. So, the man of God came to Ghana.

At that time, I served as an interpreter. I didn’t normally serve as an interpreter, but I was so curious, I wanted to get near to the man, as close as possible, so I could examine him. So I offered to be the interpreter. On the first night of the crusade, it was so wonderful! Of the number of Nigerian ministers I have known, they were very boisterous, rough and tough, but here was a man who was so gentle like a lamb. He came so gently, preached a very simple message and then said it was time for healing. He got down from the platform. I was even telling him, “if you go down from the platform the people are going to trample on you! Why don’t you stay on the platform to minister?’’ But he said, “No let’s go down,” I had never seen healing like that! Other ministers stand on top of the platform and pray, and if you get your healing by faith, you get it. But this one, he would go to the blind person direct.

Thousands came for healing and they wrote on the placards the kind of sicknesses they had. The first one he went to was an ex-service man, Brigadier Alijah Freeman – I remember very vividly; he had been blind for 12 years. I was watching very closely because I had ulterior motives; I wanted to be sure that he was not going to use any magic. He just took the placard and rubbed it on the guy’s face. The old man started shouting, “I can see like a baby! I can see like a baby!” The second person he went to was a cripple, just his leg. He said to him: “Come on – stand up!” and then the cripple jumped! I was so shocked; is it magic or is it a dream? He went to a third person. This was a woman who was brought from London. She was having a problem with her kidney and was paralysed. They had declared her hopeless, so they had sent her to come and die in Ghana. They didn’t even bring her out of the car; they had to drive her into the field. So I was following the man of God, and he just opened the door of the car; prayed for the woman and said, “Come out!”And the woman jumped out! I was so shocked!

What really surprised me was the healing of the very well known man in Ghana called ‘Big Boss’. He has a very famous restaurant called ‘Big Boss’. The man is a giant, about 6ft tall and very broad. At that time, ‘Big Boss’ had a serious problem with his kidney; he couldn’t even urinate. Hearing that the man of God was coming, his relatives brought him from the hospital, where he was awaiting an operation. On the field Prophet T.B. Joshua went to where he was, took his placard and prayed a short prayer: I then saw something I had never seen before – there were so many people in the stadium, but this man didn’t even feel shy. He removed the whole of his manhood and started urinating. He urinated for about 30 minutes! When he finished, he breathed and sad “Now, l am healed” So, l said “Big Boss how do you know you are healed? It’s not like cripple you can see walking: your sickness is internal. How do you know you are healed?” He said: “my brother, l tell you am healed! The way l was feeling before coming here. I don’t feel it. I couldn’t urinate for several weeks, but now l can urinate”. I told him: Go to the hospital to do a check up and see if you are really healed” He went and to the hospital and the doctor was shocked! He was totally healed. The following day ‘Big Boss’ came to the crusade field to give his testimony!

What actually surprised and made me to love TB Joshua was that Christ was the centre of everything he did. He would do all these wonderful miracles but after that he will say “l am not the healer. I only know the healer His name is Jesus Christ!” I said to myself, “My God if this man is not of God, who can he be? He is doing miracles and not taking the glory but giving it to Jesus’. The following day, after seeing the miracles, l went home and wept because l felt l had been too proud – so proud to criticize a man of God l have never seen before. That night, l wept bitterly. The following day l went to him – he knew what l was doing but he had a lot of patience with me. I greeted him and then had a short conversation with him. After that he shook my hands and told me “From today, we are friends!” Since then l have been calling him a friend that is closer than a brother. That has been our relationship since 1997.

FC: Do you have a personal testimony to share to strengthen our reader’s faith?

Rev: Antoh: During those days, l was very strong man, doing a lot of work as administrator of the Ghana Pentecostal Council. But one fateful morning in 2004, at around 2am, I wanted to go and urinate. Ass l was walking there, l suddenly collapsed; l didn’t know what happened. When l came around, l discovered that l had been attacked with stroke. It was a very terrible thing – my entire right side was paralysed. The moment l woke up, before even going to the hospital; l was rushed to the SCOAN because everybody knows l know TB Joshua. It was really a matter of death when l was brought here. The man of God ‘went to heaven for me’. I stayed here for 10 days. The man of God prayed for me and took care me and within 10 days l could begin to walk. He said: “Now if you don’t go home, your wife may think something bad has happened to you. So for the sake of your wife, go home nothing will happen to me”. I was afraid but he encouraged me. When l went home, l said: “I wanted to know exactly what happened to me” So l went to the hospital for a check-up and they did a CT scan. When the specialist looked at me, he was amazed. He said: “How can you be alive?” The whole of your brain is full of blood. The man thought l could not hear him, so he was speaking with the Pastor who brought me: How can he be alive? It is only a miracle that can keep this Pastor alive”. They took me home and l said: “Don’t take me to any hospital again” and l decided not to take any medicine. The doctor later assure me: “The way l, have seen Christ uploading you, l believe you will not die but medically impossible”. Later on another medical officer, upon seeing what l had been through, told me that it was the same thing Ariel Sharon, former Prime Minister of Israel through. And for years now still lying coma. It was at that time l realized what the man of God had done for me. I am forever grateful.

Life-Size Art Model of Ariel Sharon In A Coma

FC: so, the impact Prophet TB Joshua in your life is truly changing!

Rev. Antoh: Everything about TB Joshua is a model for me though l studied theology for several years, took several postgraduate degrees in theology, came as a professor of theology, set up a Bible school , until l came to TB Joshua all have been teaching was theory. I came to the Synagogue and saw the Bible demonstrated. The things you read in the Bible – you see them here! That’s why am so surprised that there are people who can have the audacity to talk against the man of God. They can do that because they don’t know. I am sure anybody who is criticizing TB Joshua has never met him personally.

FC: So, in summary what are the lessons you have learnt from the man of God

Rev. Antoh: One thing l have learnt is how to make the centrality of Christ the most fundamental in a person’s life. When l see TB Joshua, l see Christ in him Christ in undeniably the centre of his life. So the greatest thing l have learnt from him is to make Christ the center of my life.

Source: Watching TB Joshua

TB Joshua Prophesied Zambia’s Historic AFCON Victory

As Zambians revel in the joy of their first African Cup Of Nations (AFCON) triumph, a video is circulating the internet with claims that Nigerian Prophet T.B. Joshua accurately predicted their victory and Didier Drogba’s shocking penalty miss mere hours before the match began.

Video footage posted by The Synagogue, Church Of All Nations (SCOAN) in Lagos, Nigeria on YouTube shows T.B. Joshua talking on Sunday 12th February 2012, several hours before the match between Zambia and Ivory Coast was due to start.

“I know you have a game now which you want to watch,” Joshua began, speaking in a church service televised live on Emmanuel TV, a station very popular across Africa, especially in Zambia. “Today is the final and you want me to talk about it.” Joshua, who similarly predicted Ghana’s historic victory in the 2009 U-20 World Cup, said victory would be for the underdogs.

“Yes, this blessing is for a country you are not expecting; this victory is for a country you are not expecting.” With Ivory Coast going into the match as overwhelming favorites, replete with many Premier League and European stars, it is clear who Joshua was referring to.

Although known for speaking in parables when prophesying, the fact that Joshua was talking about Zambia became even more apparent as he proceeded to explain that God wanted the nation in question to rejoice because of a past tragedy.

“God wants to make them happy because of the victims of what happened to them in the past. Yes, this is joy; everybody will celebrate. That will make them forget about the past record of what happened to the same country… This is a day of forgetting, and dancing!”

The last time Zambia reached the AFCON final in 1994, it was just a year after 18 members of Zambia’s national football team died tragically in a plane crash in Libreville, Gabon. It was an event that shocked the entire nation and wiped out several of their brightest football stars. En route to the final, the current team had spoken of the strength and inspiration they had gained in remembering the tragedy.

Joshua went on to mention a specific incident vital to the outcome of the game, remarkably even stating the precise time it was to occur. “God showed me the first and second halves. In the second half at 25 minutes there is a mistake… Even if you have the opportunity to enter the television where they are playing, you would enter and flog the player, ‘Why didn’t you score this thing?’ ” You will face the goalkeeper and play it out, over the bar. Face to face with the goalkeeper and you now play it outside. Is that not a big mistake? That is the goal that would have given you the Cup. Now, it is taken to the other side.”

The ensuing events seemed to follow in the footprints of the prophet’s declaration, specifically the penalty miss of Ivorian striker Didier Drogba in the 70th minute, the 25th minute of the second half. The Chelsea FC striker ballooned the ball high over the bar, a miss uncharacteristic of the prolific goal-scorer and one that almost certainly cost Ivory Coast victory.

With the game ending goalless, a dramatic penalty shoot-out was to decide the victor. As Zambia’s Stophira Sunzu emphatically scored his team’s match-winning penalty, scenes of chaotic joy rippled across Zambia. The tragic events of 1993 were forgotten as victory against the tournament favorite’s sparked nationwide rejoicing and celebrations that continued far into the night.

Prophet T.B. Joshua is well known in Zambia for his accurate prophetic messages and extensive charitable endeavors. Hundreds of Zambians take a pilgrimage to his church in Lagos, Nigeria on a weekly basis, seeking a miracle from God. Online videos from The SCOAN website show over 100 prophecies Joshua has given relating to worldwide events such as the death of iconic pop star Michael Jackson and the recent fuel protests in his native Nigeria.

source: modernghana

 

Fake TB Joshua Branch in Harare EXPOSED!

PEOPLE suspected of running a fake branch of T.B Joshua’s Synagogue, Church Of All Nations in Harare allegedly fled the country on Tuesday.

The alleged culprits are a white man identified as Eric and understood to be of Dutch origins and Shaleen Manhiri. This followed a statement on T.B Joshua’s blog and Emmanuel TV this week where the prophet disowned the branch housed at number 42 Goodrington, Sunridge. They used to operate from 7 Arts at Avondale Shopping Centre before moving to Sunridge where they are operating from a house that is understood to belong to Shaleen’s parents.
Faced with hostile victims, the two are understood to have flown to South Africa although they claimed that they would be travelling to Nigeria today to meet T.B Joshua over the matter. Yesterday people, who felt cheated, besieged the Sunridge office demanding refunds of between  US$1 700 and US$2 200 they were made to pay to visit T.B. Joshua at his Nigeria base. Apparently the “Harare office” facilitated the travelling of Zimbabweans to Nigerian and those intending to travel were also made to surrender their passports. Some claimed to have been waiting since last year in January.

H-Metro yesterday witnessed numerous people who were demanding explanations following the statement disowning the Harare branch.
Some of the allegations against the “Harare branch” were that they were charging US$50 to those who wanted anointed water, a T.B. Joshua cd and sticker.

Beware of “Fraudsters” In “Pastors” Clothing

While the statement from the Synagogue made it clear that the anointed water is NOT for sale, Zimbabweans were being told that it costs US$100 to get the water, two cds, two stickers when in Nigeria.
Also at the “Harare branch”, a picture frame of T.B. Joshua sells for US$50 for an A4 size and US$80 for those measuring 8×12.
While mineral water being sold for US$1 is not part of the anointed water, there are concerns that most people have been buying the water believing it to be from T.B. Joshua.
With Eric and Shaleen not available to deal with the angry people yesterday, the task was left for Sithembeni Nyanzira who was however, clearly overwhelmed by a combination of phone calls and visits.
She was forced to switch off the phone as she could not take further abuse from angry ‘members’.
She told people that the statement by the Synagogue, Church Of All Nations was not a true reflection of T.B. Joshua as he was ‘in the dark’ about events in Harare.
Sithembeni claimed that Zimbabwean pastors from unnamed local churches were the ones ‘bribing’ the SCOAN communications department.
“There are pastors here who think they are losing followers because of us and they have come up with a plan to stop us from operating.
“The prophet is not even aware of these developments. People in the (SCOAN) email department are the one manipulating the messages. That’s why Eric and Shaleen are travelling to Nigeria tomorrow to clear the air with the prophet.
“What is happening is not a surprise because it was even prophesised that we would face such trials. There are people out there who also want to be the local agents for T.B. Joshua and they are doing all they can to see us out,” she said.
Those who were anxious to know about Sunday’s service were advised to check with Sithembeni on Saturday.
“Call on Saturday to check if we will a service on Sunday as we are awaiting the outcome of the meeting in Nigeria between prophet and our representatives.”
Sources said yesterday people who attend the “Harare branch” services on Sundays start by hearing testimonies from those who would have ‘bought’ the ‘anointed’.
The members then watch the live broadcast of T.B. Joshua’s service from Nigeria.
As T.B. Joshua finishes the main service and attends to individual members in need of prayer, the “Harare branch” members will then get the US$50 anointed water, which often runs out.
H-Metro heard one such testimony yesterday from one lady who was there to confirm the genuinity of the SCOAN “Harare branch”, the anointed water and stickers.
She claimed that her car burst a front tyre but avoided a tragic accident.
“Makamboonepi mota inobursta front tyre at 120km/hr igomira pasina kana anokuvara…”
She believes the sticker and anointed water saved lives on the day and she was not blaming the two for causing the mishap in the first place.

source: 
http://www.hmetrozim.com

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TB Joshua’s Prophecies; Confessions of Calradised – a die-hard Skeptic

From the editor: We recently came across an interesting thread started by a moderator on Nairaland, an online community targeted at Nigerians which currently has over 700,000 registered accounts and ranks in the top 10 most visited sites in Nigeria according to Alexa.com and from its religious section, we here present the confessions of a regular contributor by the alias Calradised,  who claims to be a skeptic who’s religious inclination frowns at such kind of prophecies as those of TB Joshua.

An excerpt from the moderator’s post opening the topic on Nairaland reads: TB Joshua prophesied on 28th Dec 2008 about economic crises coming. He repeated that prophesy in august 2011, then today again. Today at the synagogue church of all nations, he said ‘i see people (workers) in uniform protesting with placards all over the streets. It will come to a point that they will stand in front of the houses of big men saying ‘we need food! In 2008, he prophesied that ‘there would be a law coming that will moderate the amount of money you can move. And the money will not be enough to support your company, there will then be confusion everywhere’. Today at the church, he said  ’Hunger will be so severe. There will be no gentle man anymore. This crisis is now spreading from one country to another. If you have surplus now, preserve it. When Obama was giving his first speech, i said am not seeing any miracle. Every president promises miracle, even my president here, i don’t see miracle anywhere coming‘.

TB Joshua’s Global Recession Prophecy – Prophecy or Just Reading the Obvious Signs? 

TB Joshua in 2008- ...I'm Just telling You a Long term prophecy, Not immediate, so you can begin to prepare now...

Many TB Joshua critics have alleged that TB Joshua made his prophecy when the crisis  around the world and was in full swing in 2011, adding that ANYONE who made the effort to follow world affairs could see that things were already bad and were very likely to get worse. The problem here is that everyone is talking, saying that it doesn’t take a prophet to say that the economic crisis is going to get worse but no one is bothering to pick up on the point that TB Joshua prophesied this worldwide economic crisis in 2008, when at that time, there was nothing like that. ( Here’s an excerpt of the 2008 prophecy Calradised refers to here) There will be economic crisis; you are to cut your coat according to your size. Those of you that have surplus, whatever you can do now to live moderate. The only way you can be saved is if your treasure is in the hands of God.  There will be economic crisis – it’s everywhere. You will be forced to humble there will be economic war because there will be no enough money to fight war, there will be crisis in the economy. Countries that rely on mineral resources like oil they should quickly look beyond oil.  I’m just telling you long term prophecy, not immediate you can began to prepare yourself now.. 

Note the Words:  I’m just telling you long term prophecy, not immediate, so you can begin to prepare yourself now..

Watch the video below for the full details of the 2008 world economic recession prophecy Calradised refers to here

The Good Question!

How many more times does he need to talk before people of Nigeria and the world at large recognize TB Joshua as a true prophet sent of God? It is not once, not twice, not 10 times, that TBJ’s prophecies have been discussed on this debate and he has been proved wrong in none of them. It isn’t just about this particular prophecy but his entire prophecies past and present. The question is do we understand the SCALE of the problem ahead? Do you? It is one thing to claim to be smart and guess the future based on current trends and another to stick out your neck and make a bold statement about the future. I honestly do not understand people any longer, how can a man that has been proven right so many times be dismissed so casually? Imagine the scorn and abuse he’s had to endure for speaking things that have eventually come to pass yet people still dismiss him every time he opens his mouth to speak. It just keeps amazing me, how can people be so stiff necked?  Some critics have alleged that some of his prophecies do not come to pass, but truth is they’ve not been paying enough attention cos I’m yet to see one that hasn’t come to pass, and about specificity, he’s been absolutely spot on! From Jackson’s death to Nigeria’s qualification for the world cup to her ouster (Yes, that’s when i started paying attention) to the series of bombings late last year to the postponement of elections, Steve job’s death and a whole lot more I’m not even aware of, he’s been spot on – take it from a skeptic who’s religious inclination frowns at such kind of prophecies, ignore TB Joshua at your own peril. You don’t have to believe him, but do not ignore him.

Right Reasoning that changed a skeptic Forever

Calradised - finally converted from skepticism, what more will it take to convert you?

I Will narrate what completely changed my view in favour of TB Joshua’s prophecies in a moment if i can make out some time. Most of his public prophesies about what will happen in the whole world are often vague. ‘They are for public consumption’ according to him. ‘I can’t stand here and start giving you complete details. That’s not how things work (i think he means he can’t alter the laws of nature). If the nation involved calls me, i can now give full details ‘ tb Joshua often explains. People who criticize him are those who haven’t watched his service any Sunday. He unleashes hundreds of prophesies every Sunday service to church attendees almost seat by seat mostimes! A man who can remind people their dreams! Then explain it. Even give instances of events in your past life to prove his prophesy about you will come to pass. I have learnt from his prophesies that majority of our problems start when we be Intimate with possessed persons or when we visit witch doctors.  Contrary to what i used to believe, people have got into problem eating in the dream or got poor counting money in the dream! All men are not equal. TB Joshua is one of them.

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