dagger men In SCOAN

Dagger Men in SCOAN vs TB Joshua Watch; Who’s Worse Off?

During the past week a lot of news stories, blogs and outlets have picked up on  a story of how a man with a dagger attempted to attack TB Joshua on the Monday prayer line, but was arrested, delivered and handed over to the law enforcement officers, the internet is practically flooded with this story, and several more news outlets, blogs and forums are picking up on the story by the day, our major surprise on reading a lot of the reports on this story was basically because they were mostly exaggerated, and seemed to contain only few facts, except for a  few. we’re not here to review this story, most of these blogs, forums and news outlets have already done a good job at that,  We also didn’t really bother with that story here at watch TB Joshua because as it stands, the issue is a closed one, what followed after the futile mission was salvation of this assassin’s soul, with resources to care for himself whilst living his new-found life in Christ, how much more of a threat does that pose to TB Joshua or SCOAN,  What we’re here to compare now is who’s actually worse off, comparing these dagger men with a killer intention to scoan and the Pharisee authors of TB Joshua watch, a scoan critic wordpress.com site.  Now it does seem strange at first comparing mere Pharisee bloggers with a supposed assassin or cold-blooded killer in scoan, what could be the relation between them, that we now even compare, who’s worse off?

PHARISEES; worse off than the minions the employ

Well, to help you understand where we’re coming from with this post, let’s take a quick flashback to the historical biblical epoch – the annals of the Pharisees long history of hatred toward Jesus. The scripture teaches that as a rule, the Jews had no right to execute anyone, besides everyone knows that the Pharisees didn’t exactly kill Jesus with their own hands; the fact is, the soldiers actually did and were seen as the killers and murderers of Jesus then, guilty of the blood of the messiah – being the very ones who with precision hammered those huge nails into his hands and feet.  But a point of note here is that the soldiers were only acting on instruction, they really personally didn’t seem to have anything against Jesus, and seemed not to have much of a choice once the order to execute anyone was given if they would keep their job. The bible even recounts that some of them actually respected Jesus, we know this because of the account of a certain instruction given to them to go arrest him on which they came back to report to the Pharisees explaining why they didn’t arrest him.

 John 7: 32- the Pharisees heard the crowd whispering such things about him. Then the chief priests and Pharisees sent temple guards to arrest him…

Verse 45 – 48; finally the temple guards went back to the chief priests and Pharisees who asked them, “Why didn’t you bring him in?”

- No one ever spoke the way this man does.” The guards declared, you mean he has deceived you also? The Pharisees retorted. Have any of the Pharisees believed in him? No but this mob that knows nothing of the law -there is a curse on them”- Yes they knew the law so much that they practically became walking Bible encyclopaedia’s, and a problem to themselves being unable to receive the kingdom of God like little children.

So its clear that nailing Jesus to a wooden cross wasn’t really their intention, but by virtue of their Job, they had to do whatever they were commanded, but this wasn’t so of the Pharisees, the Pharisees were actually the ones behind the scenes plotting Jesus death from the onset, they were the ones with the real hatred and sinister motives, they carried out their evil activities from the shadows and so were not seen for whom they really were, they were so clever at covering their Pharisaical footprints  that it appeared that only Jesus was of the opinion that they were children of perdition, no other person seemed to share his view because the Pharisees were always in flowing robes, always praying in the temple, always bent on keeping the law to the extent of tithing the very last leaf of their farm produce, they were so concerned about keeping the law that they forgot the more important matters. Love, Justice and faith. They claimed to be keeping the law and at the same time were plotting Jesus’ death even in the temple courts.

In Matthew 26:4 – Then the chief priests and elders assembled….and they plotted to arrest Jesus in some sly way and kill Him.

Sly is another word for crafty, cunning, devious, tricky, serpentine and all the other words we’ve used before now to qualify TB Joshua watch, as they’ve proven themselves on their site. Just as they heralded serpentine and devious tactics as a trademark during the day’s of Jesus life on earth, it remains their trademark to this day, therefore this comparison we make here with the result stating TB Joshua watch as worse than these dagger-men, even though seems strange, is wholly true.

Even Jesus Himself talked about how those who handed him over to Pilate were guilty of “A GREATER SIN” and those were clearly the Jewish Pharisees.

“John 19:11- Jesus answered you would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin”

We first hinted this comparison on another post which talked about how TB Joshua’s critics want him to abandon ministry for farming, we stated how malevolent the intention of His critics were which usually explode in such statements of hate that it wasn’t so much different from those who wished him dead and proceeded to attack him with knives and axes. We got a response from katharsis, a prolific commenter on TB Joshua watch saying that we were wrong about such an intention being tantamount to murder.

Here was the ensuing conversation:

Katharsis | November 25, 2011 at 02:05

“Hers is a clear case of those living in glass houses throwing stones, with such an awful malevolent inclination in the heart of this woman to destroy TB Joshua, there’s really not much difference between her and those who walk into the synagogue with knives and daggers to attack the prophet.”

Excuse me, this sounds absurd, farfetched and whacko, I don’t perceive this person to walk in and kill a prophet or anyone with knives and daggers.

and here was our response:

watchtbjoshua | December 6, 2011 at 12:51

perhaps you’re right, she seems to have a more subtle way of doing hers, the exact point of this post, the Pharisees wanted Jesus dead, but didn’t kill him with their own hands, are those who killed him with their hands any more guilty the Pharisees who thought and planned his execution?

But what is murder according to the new testament?

THE NEW TESTAMENT’S DEFINITION OF MURDER:

Prior to the coming of the messiah people believed murder entailed actually killing a person, but Jesus taught differently:

 Matthew 5:21- you have heard that it was said to the people long ago “do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment” But I tell you anyone who is angry with his brother without cause will be subject to Judgment…”

speaking on the sheer hatred they express toward TB Joshua, a commenter laments on their site:

lilian Muzondo says: PERMALINK

October 18, 2011 at 2:11 pm

Why do you hate TB Joshua? Your accusations are baseless please dont post me this stuff again, I dont believe your lies, ok.

I guess all the anger and hate they direct at TB Joshua on their blog says it all for them already.

THE PHARISAICAL SPIRIT BEHIND TB JOSHUA WATCH?

When we referred to those behind the TB Joshua watch blog as Pharisees, a lot of people responded with certain questions on our reason for tagging them with this name, others said it was a way of us dodging the issues they raised on tb Joshua watch, a point we’ve addressed on this site.(see the related article section of this post) still some others said we were engaged in name calling and so are clearly in the wrong, we very much understand such responses that seem to have a degree of sympathy with them because a lot of them are really unaware of the faith-related crisis TB Joshua watch leave in their wake and are actually  ignoring the fact that Jesus by no means respected or regarded the Pharisees, – perhaps the responses we got on that article stemmed from its very implication, the implication of being a Pharisee which is that we would by no means enter the kingdom of heaven, inspite of the dreadful judgment awaiting the Pharisees and their successors behind tb Joshua watch today, our stand on this issue is clear enough though, we’ve given quite enough evidence to support our claim about them, the similarities between the TB Joshua watch blog and the Pharisees in Jesus day are just so glaring that we can not but see their faces in the glass of these words, anytime the religious sect of the scribes and Pharisees are mentioned, a lot of people would be tempted to think that the Pharisees were a bunch of bad guys who went about terrorizing people and scaring them to submission to the law, but this is not entirely true, at least not how they appeared, they appeared as the most holy and sincere of Christians today and were honored and revered as such, in gatherings, feasts and ceremonies they were always ushered to the high places as honored guests, so great was the honor and reverence allotted them by the people as the respected authorities on scripture . Since the start of the tb Joshua watch blog, it would be a bit of a surprise to readers that they keep coming up with a bunch of stuff against tb Joshua that they seem not to be out of stock, such was the resolve of the Pharisees in Jesus day as well, The Pharisees were never tired of coming up with stuff to accuse Jesus, in looking for faults with him, they either employed false witnesses to testify against him, or misinterpreted and misrepresented his words or works, it is actually an undisputed fact that the stiffest opposition Jesus ever met were from this group of religious people, not even from the gentiles, sinners and unbelievers, now the question is if the master Himself could be treated in this way, who are his servants to escape? Jesus himself did say, if they persecute me they will persecute you also,  the mystery about TB Joshua’s is that there’s just so much criticism’s about him that one cannot help but wonder if he’s actually the only minister of God alive, in any case He does seem to be flourishing in the midst of them, as the scripture teaches that trials are the soil in which a man who lives by faith flourishes.

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15 thoughts on “Dagger Men in SCOAN vs TB Joshua Watch; Who’s Worse Off?”

  1. @ all here,

    How about a clear staged story first fabricated and then put to action with actors with daggers in their hand attacking the “prophet”. It is clear that SCOAN does not stop there, but really goes on a limb to prove people wrong that clearly have a lot of biblical ground covered where most things go wrong in SCOAN, but they do not want to repent but rather strike like snake back of genuine accusations that need to be investigated by outside organizations wether they are true.

    I can’t imagine that SCOAN has stooped so low and vile to bring a “quotation” that I said in practice with actors that did this. God is not mocked and you can’t lie to God either. What is hidden in the dark shall be brought out in the light.

    Secondly there is no Pharisee or Saducee program against SCOAN, but a genuine investigation of the practices of the SCOAN which have been found wanting because many do not understand anything what is truly spiritual and from what force things are coming from. To Even THE ELECT WILL BE DECEIVED if it was possible. We thank God that this is not so. Nice try, WatchTBJoshua, but I ain’t falling for it. Thank you.

    1. Hi katharsis, being one of the prolific commenter’s on TB Joshua watch, you seem to believe that the guy who intended to stab the prophet was all stage-managed, this is clearly typical of TB Joshua watch’s cynicism, there “must” always be something underneath it with you guys, nothing is ever as it seems, that really tells us a lot about where you’re coming from katharsis, what’s even more exasperating is how you expressly state that SCOAN actually acted this all out because of your recent “quotation” on this site, come on katharsis, isn’t your cynisicm becoming even a problem to you? people have severally attempted to attack TB Joshua with daggers and guns long before now, this wouldn’t be the first time, unless they were following this site the way you do i doubt they’re even aware you made such a comment, and then your defense of TB Joshua watch is clearly lob-sided, describing them as genuinely investigating the practises of SCOAN is clearly giving them too much credit because not even one of their posts suits that description, they are clearly a site looking for faults in TB Joshua’s ministry so that they can jump on it like dogs on a bone Just as it is written in scripture of the Pharisees;

      Luke 6:7 So the scribes and Pharisees watched Him closely, … that they might find an accusation against Him.

      Their critical eye can be seen throughout Jesus’ ministry, and its clear we currently have their successors on the loose whose critical eyes can be seen in TB Joshua’s ministry. Of course the servant shouldn’t expect to escape from what his master suffered, Just hope you know the implication of one being a Pharisee and that its clearly a road you or any other shouldn’t travel.

  2. @ tbjoshuawatch
    I was contemplating responding to your weak excuse for not publishing my post. You stated that my arguments have been raised before and refuted.
    You cannot debate or refute the Word of God. God says, heaven and earth will pass away but His Word will remain forever. You cannot change Gods Word that says you must not slander or judge your brother into something else to suit your smear campaign.
    I would like to highlight a few things. Please watch these 2 short youtube clips regarding 2 people TB Joshua prayed for.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA6G4oR1tDY

    Please note in both clips in who’s name TB Joshua prays for these people. He makes it very clear that it is the name of Jesus.(not in his own name or strength). Please also note that these 2 people don’t have invisible ailments, they both have visible forms of paralysis. The cripple man has an incomplete lesion, thus he still has motor and sensor abilities below the level of his injury. If you look at the shape of his feet you can see his toes and parts of his feet and legs are paralyzed. The shape of his feet is called ‘drop feet’ as he can’t move his toes. The toes and bridge of his feet start bending downwards as a result of motor loss. If you don’t understand this ask a Neurosurgeon.
    The woman in the 2nd video is a Quadriplegic and has an injury to her cervical vertebrae. You can see it as all 4 her limbs are affected and by the condition of her hands. The tendons in her fingers have shortened and she has a percentage of motor and sensory loss in her arms and hands that is why her fingers and hands are atrophied. (You cannot act this)
    There is no known human cure for paralysis. It is only an act of God in the name of His son Jesus that could instantly heal them.
    After you have watched these 2 videos please read the scriptures below.
    Luke 9:
    49 John answered and said, “Master, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name; and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow along with us.” 50 But Jesus said to him, “Do not hinder him; for he who is not against you is for you.”
    Matthew 7:
    15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
    TB Joshua ministry started in 1989 and has grown from a handful of people to an international ministry feeding and helping the helpless, disabled, financing less fortunate people to study, helping strangers, orphans, the sick, dwarfs and widows. “Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.”
    TB Joshua can’t be held responsible for every person in his ministry. Each person will have to give an account for his own life before God. People use Christianity and the church for their own gain and when caught out try and blame TB Joshua.
    If TB Joshua’s ministry did not yield good fruit it would not have grown but would have been cut down and thrown in the fire. Over 20 years, the ministry has grown and bore good fruit.
    In life pain and age brings wisdom and understanding. When you are young you think you know everything just to find out when you are older you actually know nothing.

  3. @ All here,

    How sad this is, while I know this is the case about the past guns and knives. But when it occurred in Winners Chapel Lagos Nigeria, could you be sincere and tell me how it went ?

    Winners Chapel the largest single seater church in the World. What happened in 2008 there “WatchTB Joshua” ? Are you telling me that God was all of a sudden AWOL there ?

    If you don’t know what I am talking about, go use Google and find out:

    How many were killed ? Tell me ? How many were shot ? Tell me ? And then T. B. Joshua, nobody can touch him as if. Rubbish. I don’t believe nothing of what you try to pin upon me of me being a Pharisee or a Sadducee.

    Your problem lies with yourself that you can’t see it yourself on what road you are on yourself.

    Have you EVER read this scripture ? I don’t think you did.

    Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

    Go on refute my instigation regarding the above scripture. We have seen the result, we have seen all the fake things over all the years and we have seen frantic ways of trying to cover it all up.

    Not all people are blind as you think I am. Things don’t add up and things don’t connect either. If YOU want to be part of that, it is your responsibility and your choices. Not mine.

    Don’t think that I was born yesterday and know nothing. I want to repeat this again. That Pharisee and Sadducee issue is all in your head. Some people have things in their head and it is a stronghold and unless God shows and enlighten those minds, they will still think they same way. And I am very much aware that everyone all over the internet can argue about T. B. Joshua until they are blue in the face.

    Forget about me, forget about T.B. Joshua, Forget about about everyone, Your personal life must be grafted in Jesus Christ of Nazareth and His Word. Anything else is dung that says Paul and for a reason.

    But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Philippians 3:7-11

    Just for your record, I never asked for any of this, yet I am confronted with it, because I was ignorant to see beyond, but when God opens your eyes, then nothing matters anymore than Him alone.

    All what I see is T.B. Joshua printed on your forehead and in your eyes as on a cash register when you arrive what price it all has cost.

    My life has cost more than you can ever restore or rebate on me of this endless arguments about who is better, greater and more wrong.

    Not even thinking how much people are involved now and are become abused sheep in the end of the endless useless bickering that takes place. How proud can you be on that ? How great and wonderful example is this of displaying Jesus Christ in the middle of this all ? Just because someone is stuck in their own little world of thinking does not mean that God is finished with them or getting them there. With or without T. B. Joshua, who YOU all have made to you personal god.

    Instead most of you go totally berserker about this over and over again. What about the wounded and confused sheep you all have left behind on the road because of this all. because you are following a mere man instead of GOD ALMIGHTY !

    What will anyone of you do if T. B. Joshua would die tomorrow for e.g. ? You would be a flock without a shepherd. How sad. How awful. How misled too and how silly it all was then. Nobody would know what to do, without a can of water (prayed over by him) that need to be sprayed on a person to get healed. Have you ever thought about all that ? I don’t think anyone of you ever did.

    I am not going to say anymore than that.

  4. How sad this is, while I know this is the case about the past guns and knives. But when it occurred in Winners Chapel Lagos Nigeria, could you be sincere and tell me how it went ?

    Winners Chapel the largest single seater church in the World. What happened in 2008 there “WatchTB Joshua” ? Are you telling me that God was all of a sudden AWOL there ?

    If you don’t know what I am talking about, go use Google and find out:

    How many were killed ? Tell me ? How many were shot ? Tell me ? And then T. B. Joshua, nobody can touch him as if. Rubbish. I don’t believe nothing of what you try to pin upon me of me being a Pharisee or a Sadducee.

    Your problem lies with yourself that you can’t see it yourself on what road you are on yourself.

    Have you EVER read this scripture ? I don’t think you did.

    Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

    Go on refute my instigation regarding the above scripture. We have seen the result, we have seen all the fake things over all the years and we have seen frantic ways of trying to cover it all up.

    Not all people are blind as you think I am. Things don’t add up and things don’t connect either. If YOU want to be part of that, it is your responsibility and your choices. Not mine.

    Don’t think that I was born yesterday and know nothing. I want to repeat this again. That Pharisee and Sadducee issue is all in your head. Some people have things in their head and it is a stronghold and unless God shows and enlighten those minds, they will still think they same way. And I am very much aware that everyone all over the internet can argue about T. B. Joshua until they are blue in the face.

    Forget about me, forget about T.B. Joshua, Forget about about everyone, Your personal life must be grafted in Jesus Christ of Nazareth and His Word. Anything else is dung that says Paul and for a reason.

    But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Philippians 3:7-11

    Just for your record, I never asked for any of this, yet I am confronted with it, because I was ignorant to see beyond, but when God opens your eyes, then nothing matters anymore than Him alone.

    All what I see is T.B. Joshua printed on your forehead and in your eyes as on a cash register when you arrive what price it all has cost.

    My life has cost more than you can ever restore or rebate on me of this endless arguments about who is better, greater and more wrong.

    Not even thinking how much people are involved now and are become abused sheep in the end of the endless useless bickering that takes place. How proud can you be on that ? How great and wonderful example is this of displaying Jesus Christ in the middle of this all ? Just because someone is stuck in their own little world of thinking does not mean that God is finished with them or getting them there. With or without T. B. Joshua, who YOU all have made to you personal god.

    Instead most of you go totally berserker about this over and over again. What about the wounded and confused sheep you all have left behind on the road because of this all. because you are following a mere man instead of GOD ALMIGHTY !

    What will anyone of you do if T. B. Joshua would die tomorrow for e.g. ? You would be a flock without a shepherd. How sad. How awful. How misled too and how silly it all was then. Nobody would know what to do, without a can of water (prayed over by him) that need to be sprayed on a person to get healed. Have you ever thought about all that ? I don’t think anyone of you ever did.

    I am not going to say anymore than that.

    1. come on katharsis, take a deep breath now, you really do believe all those futile attempts on TB Joshua’s life were played out? but if they had succeeded in their mission it would have been real to you, isn’t it. there’s only so much you can paint of this picture of stage-managing before it all falls apart. its clear you’ve suspended belief regarding any good at the scoan, that already tells me the lot i need to know about you and why you respond in this way, you’re so cynical that you’ve hardly got both eye’s open have you? you go on a limb to say that the Pharisees issue is all in the head of the authors of this blog, but you make no attempt at stating obvious scriptural reasons why, who’s gonna fall for that, at least they gave their scriptural proofs for making this assertion and based on scripture we can come to such conclusions that we may not be taken unaware s by the antics of this Pharisee sect, and we’re not in any position to question or query what happened at winners chapel you stated here, because the way and manner God executes His plan in our lives differ. the same God that looked on when James was slaughtered never allowed the same to happen to peter by the same hand that murdered James, that doesn’t make James any less of an apostle that peter was, Just how God chose to implement His will in that matter. yeah! that’s just about my response to the stuff you that you said that came across as concerns, the rest are totally overboard that i wouldn’t bother responding to them.

      1. Here’s an interesting thread;

        Katharsis: Winners Chapel the largest single seater church in the World… How many were killed? Tell me? How many were shot ? Tell me ? And then T. B. Joshua, nobody can touch him as if. Rubbish.

        Soe: we’re not in any position to question or query what happened at winners chapel you stated here, because the way and manner God executes His plan in our lives differ. a man can be robbed and shot and yet be a friend of God Just as the man who is delivered from robbers and gunshots is a friend of God, the same God that looked on when James was slaughtered never allowed the same to happen to peter by the same hand that murdered James, that doesn’t make James any less of an apostle that peter was, Just how God chose to implement His will in that matter.

        Don’t know how to say this soe, but its nice having you here>>>”

  5. @katharsis. Hmm. What prolonged but absurd arguements. Common sense tells us it’s not easy to plan such act. If there is anything i dislike most is people trying to judge others without any proof.and am saying just telling us it was staged managed is not enough. If you know and have withnessed such then i’ll understand. We don’t just assume things, we proove things.

  6. @ Doi, Soe, Hilary,

    1. Prove me in anyway or means that it was not staged ?
    2. Ah, God executes His plan different in anybodies life you say. Do you know personally what the plan of God is for your life ? Handling a spray can with water and scream be healed and free in Jesus Name or ask God for your own anointing to do so ?
    3. How about the last bit I wrote, go answer that instead of dancing around it.
    4. @ Soe, Scriptures can also abused for the sake of “proof” while evidence is not there in others personal lives regarding that.
    5. Again I have to say this: Are their any real Pharisees and Sadducees alive today ? Was every Sadducee or Pharisee a teacher of the Law, how about Nicodemus ? What about him. At least he understood who Jesus was and did not run after other man to get his salvation. He knew exactly to whom He went and got enlightened. How about you all ?
    Did you have an encounter with Jesus in the night yourself ?
    6. The proof that I gave about Winners Chapel is the proof that T. B. Joshua quickly made everywhere fences and locks around the SCOAN and all entrances in the last few years. So much for God’s protection right ? Get real.

  7. @ All,

    Solution if it is really true what is claimed here or in SCOAN.

    Get Sky News and the BBC with camera’s and a team with independent unrelated doctors, surgeons and journalists in SCOAN and in any branch of the SCOAN abroad.

    Bring in sick people and or believers/christians unrelated from the SCOAN and from any race, Coloured, White, Red, Yellow, with HIV, Broken bones, Wheelchair bound, Arthritis sufferers, Spinal Curvature, Polio, Lung diseases, Cancer, Diabetes, Heart problems and all other diseases that someone can have.

    Bring them in and let the Sky News, the BBC and several newspapers come in and a team of the doctors as I said from Hospitals with credentials and which are registered in the Health Sector.

    Let them film all what is going on and record it and let the doctors/surgeon team investigate before and afterwards with paperwork all the dates of the X-Rays, Medical records of the diseases and establish if the water and anointing truly works as is claimed within the time that is said by you all.

    So prove this once and for all before God and man that the SCOAN is out of God for the whole world to see.

    But I am afraid I will not have to hold my breath for that, because likely this is not going to happen.

    Secondly, I would like to mention from another site ” We would start our response their recent publication on the anointed water which has sent millions free.”

    Millions you say ? Are they all registered as well by Name, Age, Birthplace and Hometown and Country ? Is this list held in the SCOAN ?

    Nobody is saying that God does not heal anywhere ? “an ungodly bloc” They are ungodly ? People that want to unmask matters and claims are ungodly ? Why ? Ah, people must swallow everything as sweet cakes what is happening without questioning ? Are you for real ?

    Nicodemus said to Jesus: There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. John 3:1-2

    So if T.B. Joshua is out of God, it would not matter to be coming forth to show to the world without his own personal camera’s in front of secular camera’s that he is out of God.

    So here is the deal…… Let’s go for it. Nobody is asking for a “sign” here, but for proof that God worketh in those that you all claim.

    What do you have to loose T. B. Joshua ? What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? Romans 8:31

    Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Romans 8:33-34

    Amen, Amen and Amen

  8. Kathasis the proofs are obvious.whatever you see happened is the proof and truth. The proof that this guy was handed to the authorities says it all.as a staged event will not go at such length.and for you who say it was staged, don’t you think you have greater assignment to proove to everyone it was? If you do not proove it then there’s no need telling us it was staged. We believed what we saw. And if there is going to be any contrary opinion, then a proof will be required.
    Talking about how Tb Joshua fenced his church. This is totally away from point.what security does fencing and locking around Scoan gives? Only God is the true security.
    Like soe said This did not just start.Did you by any means watch the early days of Tb Joshua’s ministry? If you haven’t i’ll encourage you to do so. And see it didnot just start.

  9. This is a never ending argument. It will only take the power of God for anyone so bent on disbelief to see the truth. The fact is if you have to go out of your way to suggest a far fetched expalantion as staging an assassination, then its quite obvious that the individual sees no benefit to believing and that there is definitely something wrong with your argument and motives. We pray you wake up before it is too late. Time is very short. we need to walk in love. and respect the person who is chosen by God to be a true prophetic voice for this generation. You dont have to agree. Just agree to love and respect the God in Him. If you have never met the prophet or have had the opportunity to see him operate in person, you are not in a position to comment on who he is or whether he is a true man of God or not. That is God’s business. You too focus on your true calling Katharsis. If you wer no called to Judge the prophet then you might be treading on dangerous territory

  10. I pray your soul find peace though all of this, Jesus loves you and he Loves prophet TB Joshua as well and if you are a child of God and prophet TB Joshua is a child of God, which I have no doubt he is, you will all be in heaven together one day. So be nice to your future neighbor. Be blessed in Jesus Name

  11. ……And if you were called to be a judge of the prophet, we praise God for you because your are there to help the prophet and his ministry become better and even conform more into the image of Christ as is the duty of all believers. I as an objective observer praise God for you. Because you are needed to keep the servant of God Humble. Even the Apostle Paul had his thorn in the flesh. What we know is on the “LAST DAY” All will be clear. So can I ask you to allow the prophet to do his job without all this negativity. Per chance he is truly a man of God he will be held accountable for what he has or has not done with his calling. This should free you to move on with other things. Jesus is coming soon. Time is very short.

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