The way and manner healings and miracles are wrought through TB Joshua has been a bone of contention for ages, some find it pretty amusing, others believe it isn’t at all scriptural but for the laying of hands, a point we addressed in our last post, while a quite a few hard-hearted cynics believe that such stretching of hands and feet at a patient whilst they respond to the gestures and movements of the prophet is an occult technique known as remote control, if this were true, then I guess TB Joshua isn’t the only occult member existent in the world, the others would have been working such wonders to the amazement of people in the fashion of TB Joshua since they belong to the same occult community, this makes it far from sensible that it’s a technique practiced in the occult. Whilst this issue lingers in the minds of these cynics at TB Joshua watch, it is a question that has already been answered on their site, but as proof that they do not seek answers but rather issues with which to paint TB Joshua black in the eyes of people they keep making reference to it even in the face of overwhelming scriptural evidence contrary to their views. Here are several of the concerns as they were raised on TB Joshua watch.
August 23, 2011 2:29 pm
@ Soe, ..I was saying about the shaking of the hands of T. B. Joshua, do you think this is a normal administering in spiritual matters? This you see in the occult a lot and those that practice it, also you see it in those that are in Kundalini, Shakti Pat practicing guru’s…
Another recent comment was left on this blog by a reputed SCOAN critic; Katharsis on this same issue of TB Joshua’s healing methods:
Katharsis | December 20, 2011 at 21:11…TB Joshua has people shake wildly as he throws and slashes his hands (sometimes using his feet). He is shown healing someone’s behind by grabbing his own. He shakes and wobbles his hand toward the recipient. He will squat and the person uncontrollably squats, he stands and they stand. All this is going on while the announcer says Mal.3:6 in the background and telling the people this is surely the power of God.
An impressive answer was provided to this question by another commenter which we find worthy of publishing here for those who require scriptural proofs of the healing method that involves the stretching of hands.
Soe PERMALINK August 24, 2011 8:22 am
@ Nanardi, As for the “stretching or shaking of hands” to heal you asked:
“I was saying about the shaking of the hands of T.B. Joshua, do you think this is a normal administering in spiritual matters”?
Yes!, You would agree with me if you carefully study the bible that almost all of the great miracles in Egypt were wrought through Moses and Aaron’s stretching of hands as God instructed…
And the LORD said to Moses, “Say to Aaron, ‘Take your staff and STRETCH OUT YOUR HAND over the waters of Egypt,… so that they may become blood… ‘” – Exodus 7:19
So Aaron STRETCHED OUT HIS HAND over the waters of Egypt, and the frogs came up and covered the land of Egypt. – Exodus 8:6
Then the LORD said to Moses, “STRETCH OUT YOUR HAND toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, a darkness to be felt. ” – Exodus 10:21
Then the LORD said to Moses, “STRETCH OUT YOUR HAND over the sea, that the water may come back upon the Egyptians, upon their chariots, and upon their horsemen. ” – Exodus 14:26. … and so on…
Yet It is NOTEWORTHY to mention that it wasn’t the stretched hand of the prophets that wrought the miracles but the outstretched arm of God as Moses himself affirms: Who is like you O LORD ….You STRETCHED OUT YOUR RIGHT HAND; the earth swallowed them. – Exodus 15:11-12
Thus they stretched out their hands physically as an expression of God’s unseen mighty hand stretched spiritually. As shown also in the scriptures where when Moses hands were raised towards the battle, the unseen hand of God was clearly fighting for the Israelites but when his hands were lowered- the unseen hand of God too was withdrawn-and the Israelites began loosing the battle
“Whenever Moses. “HELD UP HIS HAND”, Israel prevailed, and whenever he “LOWERED HIS HAND”, Amalek prevailed. – Exodus 17:11
It is therefore logical to believe that The stretching forth of hands towards or over an object or person in prayer-was a method commonly used by some prophets in the Bible, that even Naaman the Syrian who wasn’t an Israelite was well acquainted with it and expected it to be done to him as well when he consulted Elisha:
“But Naaman was angry and went away, saying, “Behold, I thought that he would surely come out to me and stand and call upon the name of the LORD his God, and “WAVE HIS HAND OVER THE SPOT” and cure the leprosy”.. – II Kings 5:11 NIV
HE COULDN’T HAVE EXPECTED OR THOUGHT OF THE PROPHET USING A METHOD HE HAD NEVER SEEN OR HEARD THEM USING!!!
Note from the verses above: the “STRETCHING OUT, STRETCHING TOWARDS, HOLDING UP, RAISING, LOWERING AND WAVING OF HANDS” over an object or person in prayer which is a perfect fit with what TB Joshua and the wise men do today Being prophets of THE MOST HIGH GOD. And not just them if I may add, but also some other Pastors and prophets can be seen also stretching hands in like manner- as it was, so it is.
A pretty satisfying answer if you ask us, unless for those who aren’t seeking answers in the first place, like the pharisee authors at TB Joshua watch but rather concocted stories to further slander the name and ministry of TB Joshua, as for the SCOAN supporters who didn’t know before, at least you have an answer to give now if you’re asked why TB Joshua stretches forth his hands the way he does.
TB JOSHUA’S MIRACLES; BY WHAT AUTHORITY AND HOW CAN WE TELL?
A very interesting comment was also made on the TB Joshua watch Blog, which is interesting because it rings a bell as it makes us remember the same question Jesus was asked about the source of his powers and by what authority he operated, here are the series of questions;
Hattie PERMALINK August 17, 2011 11:18 pm
…The fundamental question, with dare I say it, eternal consequences is which “god” he speaks for, what source the power is from….?
Another reputed scoan critic on TB Joshua watch also said: “his powers are from an unknown Origin” even though the prophet himself recounts the source as God Himself on the SCOAN official website: http://www.scoan.org/about/prophet-tb-joshua/biography-of-tb-joshua/
The question majority of these critics ask clearly show them to be Pharisees, as it is no different from what the Pharisees asked Jesus and the Apostles when the power at work through them became obvious and undeniable:
After this, the religious leaders of the day seized the apostles and demanded, “By what power or what name did you do this?” (Acts 4:7). In other words, they were asking,
“Who gave you this power? By whose authority did you do this?” The apostles replied, “If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a cripple and are Asked how he was healed, then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the Dead, that this man stands before you healed” (Acts 4:9-10).
As is typical of Pharisees, always calling the elect of God to account for acts of kindness; it’s no different with the Pharisees at TB Joshua watch today, calling TB Joshua to account for healings, deliverances, prophecies and works of charity. If they want to know by what authority TB Joshua is doing these things and are not clear on that fact then this text should settle it for them all.
Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, “In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.” Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. [One day] the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?” Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding. (Acts 19:13-16)
From the above it’s clear that we don’t know the authority by which a prophet operates by what he says or by the Name Jesus He calls”- the seven sons of sceva were calling the Name Jesus as well but were far from operating under the authority and power in the Name. What gives us undeniable proof of the authority by which a prophet operates is the outcome of His encounter with opposite powers. In other words authority is known by encounter as Jesus Himself made it clear that “Satan cannot cast out Satan“ and as can be seen during the deliverance services with TB Joshua, satan, his agents and demons are no match for God’s power in the life of TB Joshua as he commands their submission each time they confront him. Surprisingly, TB Joshua watch seem to believe to the contrary, their belief is centered on the false assumption that what goes on in SCOAN is counterfeit exorcism, even when the demonized are clearly delivered and back to their normal selves, testifying to the goodness of God that has rescued them from the satanic forces that have held them down so long . Its clear they’ve suspended belief regarding any good in TB Joshua or the SCOAN, blind and deaf to any life changing testimonies of the pilgrims there and doubt every live programme attesting to God’s power in the life of TB Joshua on emmanuel tv, it then becomes a fact that these critics do not see the happenings in SCOAN for what it is, but rather as they are, untrustworthy, untrue, deceptive, and cunning, as a popular adage says; we really do see things, not as they are but as we are.
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